Anime Los Angeles 2012 AMV Contest - NOW WITH WINNERS!!!

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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2012 AMV Contest - NOW WITH FINALISTS!

Postby TrufflePigStudios » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:21 am

Does anybody know when/ where we pick up the blue tickets? I skimmed over the posts to see if it had been addressed but I didn't see anything. Thanks :D
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2012 AMV Contest - NOW WITH FINALISTS!

Postby MikalSaltveit » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:47 am

TrufflePigStudios wrote:Does anybody know when/ where we pick up the blue tickets? I skimmed over the posts to see if it had been addressed but I didn't see anything. Thanks :D


Tickets can be picked up before 5:15pm on Friday at the AMV Room or at the door between 5:15pm and 5:30pm

The important thing that you are reserving is a seat. The ticket lets my Ushers know that you get to sit in the reserved seating area. If you do not have a ticket and arrive after 5:30pm we cannot guarantee your seat. We will try to be attentive until the show starts at 6:00pm,

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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2012 AMV Contest - NOW WITH FINALISTS!

Postby MikalSaltveit » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:53 pm

LAST MINUTE CONTEST UPDATE:
Ryan Cech (LC Productions) - Is it Safe? has been moved to Pro.
Victoria Rider Galietta (RiderG) - Bending Inferno has been added to Action.

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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2012 AMV Contest - NOW WITH FINALISTS!

Postby Rider4Z » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:32 pm

YAY AVATAR!!
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2012 AMV Contest - NOW WITH FINALISTS!

Postby Ryvannis » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:00 am

Sadly I won't be able to make it until Saturday since I got prior last minute arrangements in the evening. :(
Guess I'll be hitting the second screening with Troy.
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2012 AMV Contest - NOW WITH FINALISTS!

Postby Shin-AMV » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:56 am

I noticed Safety Dance made it in afterall. I like having it shown, but am to lazy too find a proxy and I'm not that interested in the prize/award if it would end up taking it away from a local that'll be attending anyways. So if its possible I'll concede any potential prizes to those in attendance.
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2012 AMV Contest - NOW WITH FINALISTS!

Postby MikalSaltveit » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:58 am

RADIO SILENCE TIME

There is no internet at con. I will not be able to respond to e-mails. If you have any further questions stop by the AMV Room and I or one of my clones will be there.

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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2012 AMV Contest - NOW WITH FINALISTS!

Postby Yuusharo » Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:11 am

Can't sleep, so I figured I'd write up some thoughts on the contest tonight. I encourage anyone else who'd like to contribute their own thoughts and ideas to please do so. We love hearing feedback from you all, especially from the creators themselves.

We took a gamble this year, and it both succeeded and failed. We decided to push back the deadline for the contest to December 31, one week before the convention. The idea was meant to encourage as many submissions as possible by year's end from as many people as we could. In a way, that worked - we got a record number of submissions this year. Some were rough around the edges while others were simply stunning. You guys continue to surprise and delight us every year with the amount of effort, talent and care you put into your videos. Not to sound melodramatic, but I feel like I've had a chance to learn a little bit about every creator who's participated in our contest through their entries.

Our gamble quickly backfired, however. The lesson I quickly learned is one week is simply not enough time to organize a complete contest. I hadn't been given a majority of the submitted entries until January 2, which meant I had little time to properly encode them, test them for any sync or artifact issues, create the intros (which are fun to do but time consuming), create the recaps, create the information cards between each video, and more. That's just the technical side. Simply put, five days is not enough time to put everything together when one has both a personal and professional life to live out in addition to his responsibilities to the convention. It's not fair to me, but mostly it's not fair to you guys, the heart and soul of the contest. You deserve better treatment from us, and we want to bring it to you the best damn show we possibly can!

Without getting into too much inside baseball, there are other issues and concerns internally that need to be addressed in the way the AMV Contest is done in future years. I've been listening to a lot of feedback off the record by several people, in addition to my own observations both as a con-goer and a staffer. There have been several reoccurring criticisms that have gone unanswered up to this point. I'll be in discussion with several people internally after the convention is over to explain what those problems are, and work on construction solutions that take care of those issues going forward.

I truly apologize for all the technical issues we had during the contest tonight, as well as for starting 30 minutes late. Fortunately, thanks to our tech crew, the ALA Staffers, our panel of judges and our esteemed Toastmaster, we were able to get through the entire contest without too many screw ups. I'm truly honored to be working with these folks and look forward to it every year.

Time to get some much needed sleep. Feel free to track me down either at con this weekend or online anytime if you'd like to discuss anything. See you all again soon!

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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2012 AMV Contest - NOW WITH FINALISTS!

Postby blaku92 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:37 am

I was ok with the videos playing out of order from the voting tickets (because it was made clear which videos were which), but the fact that every video was played back at an inconsistently wrong aspect ratio really bugged me. At first, I thought everyone was negatively affected by this in the same way because the projector was set to 16:9 instead of 4:3 I believe, but I'm not quite sure. Also, audio sync was off by 3 frames or so (could be due to the theater screen distance or something though). Overall, I enjoyed the event very much and look forward to entering again. I think you guys learned a lot of lessons about having earlier preparation/manageable entry deadlines, so I won't go into that. The contest opening montage was pretty epic. Did you cut that Jason? It's impressive that you got as much done as you did in the time you had to do it! I missed the meet and greet today because I was given wrong info, but I'll swing by the AMV room at some point tomorrow (Saturday -- yes I still haven't gone to sleep XP) to meet you and talk more about it all. I can't wait to hear the results tomorrow. I hope my entry does well, but I gotta say: damn -- that Avatar vid should have been shown to M. Night Shyamalan first to show how it's DONE! Definitely my favorite, unexpected entry. Thanks for all the hard work and good job everyone!
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2012 AMV Contest - NOW WITH FINALISTS!

Postby Rider4Z » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:44 pm

blaku92 wrote:I was ok with the videos playing out of order from the voting tickets (because it was made clear which videos were which), but the fact that every video was played back at an inconsistently wrong aspect ratio really bugged me. At first, I thought everyone was negatively affected by this in the same way because the projector was set to 16:9 instead of 4:3 I believe, but I'm not quite sure. Also, audio sync was off by 3 frames or so (could be due to the theater screen distance or something though).

i agree with the aspect ratio, for the most part i was able to ignore and adjust but it can be distracting. this is the only time i know it happening to the entire show.
i sat up close to the screen and the audio was in sync to me. if surround speakers are available i highly suggest so people in the back don't have that issue.

i give props for having Tadao on hand to keep the audience's spirits up while you guys fixed bugs. that's something stryyder and i should look into for Vegas XD stalling is not my greatest attribute. it's also great that there wasn't anything planned for after the contest so you didn't have to cut out a category.

aside from all that my only other suggestion would be:
Spoiler :
USE A PC
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2012 AMV Contest - NOW WITH FINALISTS!

Postby Yuusharo » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:49 pm

The aspect ration was definitely an issue, but not something we could easily solve. It involved the way the projector setup this year. For whatever reason, the projector was outputting a 16:9 aspect ratio while the computer was outputting a 4:3 aspect ratio. Trust me, we spent about an hour and a half trying to figure out what was going on with no success. Michael Underwood came up to us during the show to let us know the problem too. I sincerely apologize for that.. again, we're going to give ourselves *much* more time next year to test out all equipment involved so that this problem doesn't happen again.

As far as the sync, that was a known problem I had been up until 5am the night before figuring out that affected a handful of videos - not all, but a few. The sync problem on some of the videos was due to a transcoding error I had made trying to get everything imported into Final Cut and rendered out as quickly as possible. In the final renders for the contest, I actually went through and hand adjusted all 30 videos so that they would play properly in sync - boy that was fun, lol.

But we couldn't play the final rendered contest last night for two reasons. First, all of the renders were outputted as 4:3, with 16:9 preserved with black bars. But as I already said, the projector was outputting the wrong aspect ratio compared to the resolution we were outputting. The result would have been *super* stretchy videos that would have looked terrible, even worse than what we played. By playing back the original transcoded media in VLC, we were able to at least get it to fill as much of the screen as possible. Second, if you notice, the order on the ballots is not the same as the order listed here on this thread, which is what I assumed the final order would be. Even if we were able to play the rendered contest at the correct aspect ratio, every category would have one or two videos completely out of order, which would have made it confusing to the audience. Since we went to Plan B, playing back the files one by one, I took the opportunity to quickly reorder it according to the ballot and just hope for the best. Thanks to Tadao on the mic, he was able to keep the show flowing as smoothly as possible while we worked through the categories. He's a good man and a great friend. If he's reading this, thank you so much for that, Tadao! =)

Some of these issues could have been avoided if we had better communication internally. As it was, because we had such little time to prepare, we had too many people running on assumptions rather than confirmations and each were off doing their own thing without letting the other know the plan. Yes, we got a completed contest out of it, but it could have been much more polished and professional. That's one of many things we're going to work out over the next few months as we begin to prepare for next year.

For now, however, I'm going to enjoy the wrap up / rescreening of the contest later this afternoon. I'll be there for sure. Can't wait to meet you guys there. :)

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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2012 AMV Contest - NOW WITH FINALISTS!

Postby Yuusharo » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:00 pm

Rider4Z wrote:
blaku92 wrote:I was ok with the videos playing out of order from the voting tickets (because it was made clear which videos were which), but the fact that every video was played back at an inconsistently wrong aspect ratio really bugged me. At first, I thought everyone was negatively affected by this in the same way because the projector was set to 16:9 instead of 4:3 I believe, but I'm not quite sure. Also, audio sync was off by 3 frames or so (could be due to the theater screen distance or something though).

i agree with the aspect ratio, for the most part i was able to ignore and adjust but it can be distracting. this is the only time i know it happening to the entire show.
i sat up close to the screen and the audio was in sync to me. if surround speakers are available i highly suggest so people in the back don't have that issue.

i give props for having Tadao on hand to keep the audience's spirits up while you guys fixed bugs. that's something stryyder and i should look into for Vegas XD stalling is not my greatest attribute. it's also great that there wasn't anything planned for after the contest so you didn't have to cut out a category.

aside from all that my only other suggestion would be:
Spoiler :
USE A PC


Tadao was amazing last night. He really did come to our rescue, and even though he was exhausted, he stuck around with us all the way to the end. While each video was playing, I was using a monitor we had in the booth as a makeshift teleprompter, feeding him the information about the videos as they were played. Sorry about the two screw ups on my part - it was dark and my brain wasn't in the best of shape last night.

If you see Tadao this weekend, let him know how appreciated he is for being at ALA. He's our secret sauce for sure ;).

And as far as your suggestion, YES! Lol. Hey, the Mac was good to me this year - other than it being a little slow on the CPU side, it let me crank out those intros very quickly it did its job playing back all the files without any crashes. I do fear the laptop we used was the source of the aspect ratio problem, but it didn't have Windows installed and we didn't have any other machines that we tested with. We could have taken a chance with the PC that was being used in the AMV room, but it would have just been one more unknown factor that we couldn't afford.

You have my word - next year, we're sticking with Windows =P.

~Jason Fiore
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2012 AMV Contest - NOW WITH FINALISTS!

Postby MikalSaltveit » Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:29 am

I will be posting the winners in this thread sometime tomorrow. I want to make sure I get everything spelled correctly.

I tried to make a point this year of thanking every contestant for submitting their videos to the contest. And I really do mean that. Without the Creators we don't have a contest. I also want to give special thanks this year to Michael Underwood for being our Mystery Judge. And a thanks to all our Judges and Staff for helping to put everything together.

A couple of changes going into the next year. I know lists are formal and less-friendly than conversational paragraphs, but I feel this would be easier to summarize as a list:
1. Each creator or group of creators will be limited to sending in 3 videos.
2. I won't make this a hard rule, but we would prefer the 3 videos to be in different categories if possible.
3. All videos must be submitted electronically via our new upload form. Creators will be able to overwrite their current upload if they make edits before the final deadline. We will provide for special case situations, i.e. slow or no internet at home, for this first year with the new system
4. We will have some stricter requirements on file formats, audio codecs, bitrates etc. Details are being worked on.
5. Certificates are being redone by a professional artist, it looks really nice.
6. Prizes will be a bit more upfront this year. I was left out of the loop pre-con regarding what prizes we would have. Prize Distribution has vowed that I will have more information next year.


At this moment I feel I need to reiterate the message of one of my earlier posts. All communication regarding the contest must go to me through either amv12@alaamv.info OR amv12@animelosangeles.org

Increment the year number for next years contest, but I hope everyone gets the idea. Any messages sent, or information posted by someone not using this account or those 2 e-mails is not official information.

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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2012 AMV Contest - NOW WITH FINALISTS!

Postby tipsd9video » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:10 pm

Great contest this year :D The changes for next year all sound like good ideas.
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2012 AMV Contest - NOW WITH FINALISTS!

Postby TritioAFB » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:03 pm

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