Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest Finalists List.

[milkmandan]

I assume it's just the song, Mind Heist, not the actual trailer, edited to make an amv.

Its actually not Mind Heist and it needs a correction, I've replied to Nikki in my confirmation email but i haven't gotten a response. Ping her on PM as well.

[Shin-AMV]

I know that you'll probably need the guy that handles the website stuff to do this, but make sure they update http://www.anime-expo.org/programming/amv-contest/ to include the 6th Finalist for all the categories.

[milkmandan]

I know that you'll probably need the guy that handles the website stuff to do this, but make sure they update http://www.anime-expo.org/programming/amv-contest/ to include the 6th Finalist for all the categories.

lemme fix that

update: fixed
http://www.anime-expo.org/programming/amv-contest/

[Pwolf]

Yes but rules are rules. It would be pointless and unfair to set them out if the coordinator/judges would have the discretion of bending them if they'd like to.

It really depends on perception and interpretation. I've had discussions with people all the time about videos making it into categories they don't believe should be there, but to me, it's still fitting. So it really depends on what the judges think of the video. I also know first hand (currently judging IC4 and previous contests) how judges tastes and interpretations differ. What I think of a video can be vastly different than someone else.

That said, and what i mentioned earlier and in my rant many moons ago, the addition of the new category really screws all this up because it's not judged and awarded the same. There's always going to be a contest where people disagree about what videos belong where, but AX has a category that doesn't get judged and awarded the same as the rest, and that's the heart of the issue. It's not about wither or not the video is in the wrong category, it's that the video can win something that the other videos can't. That's what makes it unfair and potentially damaging.

[Radical_Yue]

It was a basic rule that wasn't followed by the judges.

Maybe the judges didn't feel that way at all. Maybe they saw all the fancy effects and said (this is AMtv-Pro). Your perception of videos may not always fall in line with others.

And yes, we all know you aren't directly attacking anyone.

No matter how a person feels, if the video fits the criteria then it should be placed into the correct category. If you were to put Wedding Rings and the Big O video side by side you could easily tell there is a major similarity.

What's the big deal with moving it from one category to another anyways? So many people here claim to "not be in it for the money," so why shouldn't the video be in the category it's most suited for? Just a simple question >.>

But regardless of how you feel you edited your video, would you call it a trailer in any way, shape or form? The rule specifically states that trailers should go into the Fun/OVA category. It's what it was made for.

I would never consider my video a "trailer". I never even posted the video up, I am curious now as to where you saw it.

lol, the only reason your video came into the spotlight was because the basic name sounded like a cookie cutter Inception trailer video and I thought having a look at it along with the Big O trailer might have been a good idea. I apologize for the confusion. I never claimed to have seen it, but due to obvious name is from obvious source, I assumed.
That's my bad and I once more apologize.

Hell, I'd say that's where the Totoro video should go :/ Regardless of what it was trying to do, audio from a trailer was used!

Now this is where I correct myself. Audio from the trailer was NOT used, if audio from the trailer was used, it would've included all the screaming and shouting from Frodo, orcs shooting arrows, magic and dragons. That would've been 'AUDIO from the trailer' and it only would've been 1 mins long. The Totoro video took the entire original track from the original artist's CD and did a video with that.


I did the same. I took an entire uncut unedited audio track and made something new with that.

Fine then, it's not a trailer.
It's a parody.



Or at least that's what the original editor says.

Once more, I was never trying to crusade against your video at all. It was more of a "Hey, if they let this in, there may be other problems out there. Oh, here is a video that sounds like another Inception trailer video. We may want to take a closer look to make sure this didn't happen elsewhere."

Going along the same point then. If you say "Regardless of what it was trying to do, audio from a trailer was used!" then every AMV that has ever used a track that appeared in a movie trailer should now be in "fun/parody category".

Alright, lets take all the drama videos ever made with The Postal Service and slap a 'Fun/Parody' tag on them. :\ I can already name a few drama amvs that have used Such Great Heights or any other song from Postal Service. I wouldn't consider THOSE fun/parody videos :\

Let's be honest, there are some tracks out there that come with the automatic association with a movie :/ Hell, nowhere in the Totoro video description does it say "Lord of the Rings" but the audio creates an automatic association for you.

I'm nowhere near saying that every video with a song used in a trailer should be a trailor/parody. But if the video itself resonates along the same lines, then it should be in that category. And by "audio from a trailer" I mean just that. Either incredibly well-known trailer audio that is used to create a video in a parody/trailer fashion or actual spoken dialogue.

As far as I'm concerned, unless they're syncing to the music IN the trailer and ignoring the spoken dialogue completely, it's still a trailer/parody.

Don't worry, i am syncin'

Looking forward to seeing it ;p

I understand that the rules are old. That's pretty damn obvious. My beef is the fact that the rules weren't just left alone, they were altered. Attention was brought to these specific set of rules and then they were changed to suit the new category and give a place for these videos.
And then the rule was ignored.

And you point is a valid one and has been taken into note by Michael. As busy as he is, he actually listens, response to these threads and takes advice.

Good to know, can't wait to see it.

[milkmandan]

lol, the only reason your video came into the spotlight was because the basic name sounded like a cookie cutter Inception trailer video and I thought having a look at it along with the Big O trailer might have been a good idea. I apologize for the confusion. I never claimed to have seen it, but due to obvious name is from obvious source, I assumed.
That's my bad and I once more apologize.

That actually needs to get corrected and I've emailed Nikki and Michael.
When i did my paper submission, i had the wrong song written on due to my own personal mix up of artist and song titles.

Its not Inception i can assure you that.

Once more, I was never trying to crusade against your video at all. It was more of a "Hey, if they let this in, there may be other problems out there. Oh, here is a video that sounds like another Inception trailer video. We may want to take a closer look to make sure this didn't happen elsewhere."

Don't worry, I never took it that way. hahaha just trying to offer explanation just in case there was a mis-understanding. You are offering help and at least from me, it is appreciated.

[Ryvannis]

Yes but rules are rules. It would be pointless and unfair to set them out if the coordinator/judges would have the discretion of bending them if they'd like to.

It really depends on perception and interpretation. I've had discussions with people all the time about videos making it into categories they don't believe should be there, but to me, it's still fitting. So it really depends on what the judges think of the video. I also know first hand (currently judging IC4 and previous contests) how judges tastes and interpretations differ. What I think of a video can be vastly different than someone else.

That said, and what i mentioned earlier and in my rant many moons ago, the addition of the new category really screws all this up because it's not judged and awarded the same. There's always going to be a contest where people disagree about what videos belong where, but AX has a category that doesn't get judged and awarded the same as the rest, and that's the heart of the issue. It's not about wither or not the video is in the wrong category, it's that the video can win something that the other videos can't. That's what makes it unfair and potentially damaging.

If you went to the contest in the past three years you'd understand where I'm coming from, or if you've seen the AMVs at least. A video in the past that was mis-categorized for drama wins best in show, a contestant managed to sneak in straight cut videos twice, a drama video that consisted of some 3D anime/game that had no correlation to drama gets in, etc.

Of course no one would perceive a video the same way but considering the cash prize this year, there should be no room for mistakes in terms of categorization or in terms of the corresponding rules. Its ironic because the fun category contradicts one of the rules that regulates whether or not a parody type video gets in or not, yet videos that do not get into the category, despite following the guidlines of actually belongoing into that category, don't and they aren't dqed despite not following the rules. This was a partial issue with Bohemeniam Rapshody, it was a comedy video in drama, and again it won best in show. It wouldn't have been barred from entering the contest but I'm sure everyone was running in circles trying to understand how that happened. We never even got a definitive answer to why it got in. Not everyone is going to see a video in the same way but there has to be some common ground established.

I'd think twice about trusting the judges with an error like that. If you'd like to trust that type of judgement then I have nothing against you but there has to be a line illustrated somewhere, and judges need to pick out videos based on their competitive quality and nothing else.

[Cyrix]

I agree it's very frustrating when the rules get broken (I had no entry that year, but the video that won best in show in 2006 was 33 seconds over the maximum time limit). The categorization has always been iffy. My friends and I used to joke that the AMTV-"Pro" category, despite the description, is where they dump subpar videos that don't fit well in other categories. There were a few videos that didn't belong in their categories last year (Michael pointed one of them out during the show, IIRC), and yes it's worse when there is money involved.

Not that I said anything new.

[TrufflePigStudios]

Ahhhhhh!!!! Oh wow!!! I'm so excited to be in the finals again this year!!! Eeeeek!!! My heart was beating so fast when I checked the results!!! CONGRATS TO EVERYBODY WHO MADE IT IN!!! This looks like it's going to be a great show!! I am so beyond excited!!! I

[Moonlight Soldier]

What the heck Todd, way to enter your old videos. (GET A JOB.)

Good luck to all the finalists