The Otakon 2011 Thread

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Re: The Otakon 2011 Thread

Postby l33tmeatwad » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:20 pm

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Miracle_Falcon wrote:Yeah, the text was really good, though I wanted to see images of Shinji or Asuka fade in or out of the text or something - I wanted to see the text effects tie back to Evangelion a little more. It was still really fun to watch, though.


I agree, I was hoping for some more Eva during the text effects segments. There's definitely enough visual movement to sustain interest during the text scenes, but it did feel a bit discordant with the rest of the video.

Understandable, I've heard that from a few people. My goal was to make an "Adult-Swimish" style video using clips followed by "fun but plain" text and then ramp up chorus text effects. The aim was to use the clips as the punchline to the joke and vary between clips and text as the setup. I felt like going from black screens or unrelated clips to the punchline clip added a little more umph to the joke because there was no "lead-in" to prepare you for it. I wasn't sure how well it would be received or if it was work all that well. Much like my "Rough Love" AMV that aimed to be a "Romantic Comedy", I was basically just looking for something new to try out.

Anyways, enough concept rambling, lol, I'm just glad that everyone enjoyed it so much :)! It's always awesome to be able to go and listen to how the crowd reacts to a video you worked hard to edit. This was my first to actually get to vote, as the only contest I've had a chance to go to is the one at Animazement, and the judges decide that one.
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Re: The Otakon 2011 Thread

Postby snapxynith » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:58 pm

My original concept for the text was to do the floating com channel windows in EVAs style for the text and move them around within support clips to have the relevant statements be said by the characters in the video on the other end of the com. Which sounds similar to what you're mentioning irriadin.

This clashed with l33tmeatwad's [as] vision, so I just pushed the visual punch in that style as hard as I could in the time frame. It puts more focus on what is being said instead of having a sparkly visual. Probably a good decision. I am more of an effects person than a comedian with good pacing.
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Re: The Otakon 2011 Thread

Postby Scintilla » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:56 pm

WHOOOOOOO

So much good stuff was happening this weekend at Otakon that there sadly wasn't enough time for all the human interaction I would have liked... and considering my usual tendencies, that is saying something.
(In addition to the AMV-related stuff, I also managed to win this year's Otaku Idol, mostly via GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF ENERGYYYY... and an awesome-lookin' cape. Then Katie got to see a packed-room audience cheer for the trailer she sent in three years ago but never got to see, and then we saw the same audience laughing and cheering for a major fan parody we both had parts in.)

Seven and eight years ago, I was all excited to get to meet all the big established editors in the community. Now I'm all excited to see so many fresh young faces getting into the community and making kickass videos.
I just wish I could have gotten the chance to meet you all properly; we really gotta all go out and eat somewhere next year, when there's no huge fan parody premiere on Saturday night that Katie and I have to be at.

And I might have forgotten to say this at the con, but thank you to everyone who came out to support the Iron Editor contest! You were a great audience and you helped make my first time hosting a truly fine experience.

And now, some AMVs I wanted to recommend (other than the winners and runners-up).

Miracle Falcon's "Letting Go": This video was just a perfect showcase of the dramatic thrust of Angel Beats!. It didn't even sound like what you would expect from Linkin Park. Cyanna cried. I didn't, but I still loved it.

VivifxAMV's "Moe Moe Rebellion" (Asylum Studios): Between last year's "An AMV About TV" and now this, ViviFX is betraying a peculiar talent for high-concept videos. The only thing I can think of that could have prevented this video from making finals is the long spoken intro... but at the same time, it clarifies the plot of what follows. Highly entertaining -- keep it up!

Katzie's "With You Around" (now also Asylum Studios?): Cute Toradora! romance video, had the crowd awwwing, and the effects didn't detract from the concept.

MysteriousRyder's "Junjo Rhapsody": With so many videos out there on the 'net using bits of video game footage and sound effects/dialogue mixed into a song in this way, how is it that nobody had thought to do an AMV with the same idea before now? ("Baseball Bat Serenade" doesn't count because it didn't use any audio from Paranoia Agent itself.) Plus, it's funny.

Corsair's "Addiction" (Re-Evolution Studios): Though I don't agree with this video being in the Comedy category, it's still quite enjoyable and I voted for it as a Drama at AnimeNEXT. I don't know what the song has to do with it, but the story is told perfectly, and that last segment is genuinely disturbing.
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Re: The Otakon 2011 Thread

Postby Miracle_Falcon » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:06 pm

Scintilla wrote:Miracle Falcon's "Letting Go": This video was just a perfect showcase of the dramatic thrust of Angel Beats!. It didn't even sound like what you would expect from Linkin Park. Cyanna cried. I didn't, but I still loved it.


Ah, thanks for the kind words, it's always nice to hear after a hard fought loss. Speaking as the creator, I'm biased, but I love the song for being the antithesis of pretty much every other Linkin Park song: all the others are about just holding onto all this negativity and wallowing in it, and they finally made a song about not letting it weigh you down.

Also, it was interesting to hear about people crying because of it during the con. I'd heard people say it made them cry in youtube comments, but I always just assumed it was hyperbole. I was particularly interested when I told one group of strangers at the con which video I'd made, and then was promptly shouted at for making them cry.

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Re: The Otakon 2011 Thread

Postby Cyanna » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:31 pm

Scintilla wrote:Miracle Falcon's "Letting Go": *snip* Cyanna cried.


I was actually silently freaking out on the stage over the possibility of it being shown as a Drama winner or runner-up and then I'd completely embarrass myself. I was crying at the prescreenings too. :oops:
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Re: The Otakon 2011 Thread

Postby Miracle_Falcon » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:37 pm

Cyanna wrote:
Scintilla wrote:Miracle Falcon's "Letting Go": *snip* Cyanna cried.


I was actually silently freaking out on the stage over the possibility of it being shown as a Drama winner or runner-up and then I'd completely embarrass myself. I was crying at the prescreenings too. :oops:


Well, I'm sorry to say that I would have been very happy to bring you that sort of embarrassment/sorrow. Maybe another time. :)
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Re: The Otakon 2011 Thread

Postby jubjub2 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:48 pm

Congrats to all the winners!

I was wondering if there is any feedback on the Kaleido Star/Big Bang video. It's my daughter's first Otakon, and I would love to let her read and understand how other editors view her work.
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Re: The Otakon 2011 Thread

Postby SatoshiSakura » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:04 pm

A little late in coming, but congrats to all the winners!
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Re: The Otakon 2011 Thread

Postby VivifxAMV » Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:36 am

Scintilla wrote:
VivifxAMV's "Moe Moe Rebellion" (Asylum Studios): Between last year's "An AMV About TV" and now this, ViviFX is betraying a peculiar talent for high-concept videos. The only thing I can think of that could have prevented this video from making finals is the long spoken intro... but at the same time, it clarifies the plot of what follows. Highly entertaining -- keep it up!



Aaah!!!!!!! I can't express how much that means to me! Especially coming from you... one of my AMV editing idols. It was amazing to meet you in person, seriously you made my entire Otakon experience epic. I was slightly bummed that the one year I could make it out, my AMV got cut - but that quickly vanished as soon as I got to meet so many amazing people and see so many amazing AMVs. Especially Business Time...I think I broke the replay button on Youtube. Iron Editor was totally epic (great job MCing BTW)...Next year I want to try that guessing animes game, I feel I would totally dominate.

I am going to try and make an effort to become more active on the Org and to enter cons and things, so hopefully next year at Otakon I will have something totally awesome prepared (and not rushed....again). And all that extra practice will help me clean up my editing...which I think is a huge issue personally - That is my biggest problem with MMR, parts of it are downright sloppy. And no more long spoken intros with me trying to force my voice into an impossible octave. Thank you again so much! OH and Congratulations to you and your wife!
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Re: The Otakon 2011 Thread

Postby irriadin » Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:49 am

Scintilla wrote:Corsair's "Addiction" (Re-Evolution Studios): Though I don't agree with this video being in the Comedy category...


There were a few videos that seemed out of place in Comedy. VeeBee's video seemed much more Upbeat than anything. I guess it was moved to Comedy because it probably had the funniest moment of any of the AMV's this year (that being the deer suplex... the build-up is just perfect.)
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Re: The Otakon 2011 Thread

Postby l33tmeatwad » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:10 am

VivifxAMV wrote:...Especially Business Time...I think I broke the replay button on Youtube.

Haha, glad you enjoyed it! :)

Speaking of meeting other editors, I wished I had the opportunity to meet more of them at the convention. Oddly, I didn't meet anyone outside of the Iron Editor and AMV Contest rooms that went to the AMV contest, haha...

irriadin wrote:There were a few videos that seemed out of place in Comedy. VeeBee's video seemed much more Upbeat than anything. I guess it was moved to Comedy because it probably had the funniest moment of any of the AMV's this year (that being the deer suplex... the build-up is just perfect.)

I personally thought few were out of place in general. I felt like the Squid Girl video was more comedy than upbeat and Addiction was more upbeat or drama than comedy.
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Re: The Otakon 2011 Thread

Postby kiarrens » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:20 pm

Action also seemed to be a bit... dramatic this year. This is something I've been noticing at many cons lately. The "Dr-action" videos seem to be becoming more prevalent (my own at AB included). They were all great videos in Action, but one or two (VERSUS in particular) just really felt out of place.

While I'm on the subject of Action, can I just say how much I loved the Escaflowne (Kings Legend) video?
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Re: The Otakon 2011 Thread

Postby irriadin » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:08 pm

kiarrens wrote:Action also seemed to be a bit... dramatic this year. This is something I've been noticing at many cons lately. The "Dr-action" videos seem to be becoming more prevalent (my own at AB included). They were all great videos in Action, but one or two (VERSUS in particular) just really felt out of place.

While I'm on the subject of Action, can I just say how much I loved the Escaflowne (Kings Legend) video?


The Escaflowne video was very good, I agree. It got me to buy the TV series right then and there at Otakon!

As far as the Dr-action thing goes... well, there's a lot of potential cross-over between Action and Drama videos. Particularly when the video is character driven. I personally feel more attachment and investment in "Dramaction" videos than say... a "various action" AMV with a ton of different series. It allows for more catharsis and isn't quite as much a case of "style over substance" as your typical action amv.

That's what I think, anyway.
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Re: The Otakon 2011 Thread

Postby Deemer » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:28 pm

kiarrens wrote:While I'm on the subject of Action, can I just say how much I loved the Escaflowne (Kings Legend) video?


yay, you have no idea how happy it makes me to hear you say that.
I dont care that I didnt win anything, I'm happy as long as you guys really enjoyed my video.

here is the link to my vid for all to enjoy.
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... p?v=183378

anywho...
I had a blast at the AMV contest and iron editor(I was the guy in the Stein costume sitting more or less in the middle of the room during Iron Editor)
During the AMV contest, I was sitting next to someone who made some of my all time fav clips from the AMV Hell vids, and got to talking about my own clips in AMV Hell.
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Re: The Otakon 2011 Thread

Postby Davis 51 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:45 pm

Deemer wrote:I had a blast at the AMV contest and iron editor(I was the guy in the Stein costume sitting more or less in the middle of the room during Iron Editor)


Huh, so that was you. I was sitting a few rows behind you. If I had known you made that, I would have told you in person how much I loved it! The action category for me was close, very very close, but in the end, I picked yours.
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