Anime Los Angeles 2011 AMV Contest *WINNERS*

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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2011 AMV Contest

Postby Castor Troy » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:22 pm

Any word when we'll be receiving confirmation that you got our entries?
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2011 AMV Contest

Postby Yuusharo » Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:44 pm

Castor Troy wrote:Any word when we'll be receiving confirmation that you got our entries?

I'll ask Mikal to send out confirmations as soon as he can (I don't have access to that information). As long as you submitted the form and/or sent us a link to your video at amv2011@animelosangeles.org however, you should be fine. If we're missing either piece, we'll be in touch.

Keep sending them in! We have lots of room, folks. =)
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2011 AMV Contest

Postby MikalSaltveit » Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:56 am

I have recieved physical playable copies from the following people:

Ryan Molina
David Nguyen
Erin Nguyen
Mike Hernandez
Nic Neidenbach
Isaac Fischer
Katherine Cullen
Jill Lanpher

If you name is not on this list do not panic! :shock:

If you sent me a download link, please resend this link to my e-mail amv11@saltve.it and remind me to download it.
If you sent snail mail within the last week, it may still be making its way here due to the holiday
If you sent it longer than a week ago, you should e-mail me to work out another method of delivery.

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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2011 AMV Contest

Postby Deuce Loosely » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:30 am

Yuusharo wrote:Lol. Best advice I can give is just get it in as quick as you can. The sooner, the better.

That's what she said. :P

Seriously, though...that thing about "you must attend the convention" stopped me dead from entering. Sorry, but a cross-country trip from Virginia Beach just isn't within the realms of possibility. Bleh... :book:
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2011 AMV Contest

Postby Castor Troy » Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:59 am

MikalSaltveit wrote:I have recieved physical playable copies from the following people:

Ryan Molina
David Nguyen
Erin Nguyen
Mike Hernandez
Nic Neidenbach
Isaac Fischer
Katherine Cullen
Jill Lanpher

If you name is not on this list do not panic! :shock:

If you sent me a download link, please resend this link to my e-mail amv11@saltve.it and remind me to download it.
If you sent snail mail within the last week, it may still be making its way here due to the holiday
If you sent it longer than a week ago, you should e-mail me to work out another method of delivery.

-Mikal


Whew! All is good!

Hope more people submit since that list is kinda small..
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2011 AMV Contest

Postby Rider4Z » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:53 am

Castor Troy wrote:Whew! All is good!

Hope more people submit since that list is kinda small..

i'm submitting online.

i'll get those links to you soon
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2011 AMV Contest

Postby anneke » Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:02 pm

I have nothing new that I can submit. I have a great comedy video but due to content...yeah...can't... and after last year's situation with the tech and handling of everything so badly, and the continuing to allow people to troll their videos I'm glad to not be entering. There is a difference from resubmitting a video that has won an award or two, and submitting a video that has won major awards at all the surrounding conventions.
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2011 AMV Contest

Postby MikalSaltveit » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:41 pm

Anneke
You voiced your opinion to the AMV Staff. We listened but do not agree. You are beating your head against a wall. Please help keep this thread respectful by not posting any more flame-bait.

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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2011 AMV Contest

Postby Yuusharo » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:44 pm

anneke wrote:I have nothing new that I can submit. I have a great comedy video but due to content...yeah...can't... and after last year's situation with the tech and handling of everything so badly, and the continuing to allow people to troll their videos I'm glad to not be entering. There is a difference from resubmitting a video that has won an award or two, and submitting a video that has won major awards at all the surrounding conventions.


My own two cents, as a casual observer :)

We've had videos at past contests that constituted "questionable" content. We try to keep the contest PG-friendly, since the whole con is geared that way, but stuff has gotten through without much of a fuss. The only things that aren't allowed are overt sexual material (near hentai level), and excessive violence, usually stuff that wouldn't be allowed on broadcast television anyway. If you're not sure if your video would qualify, you're always free to submit it and ask.

Regarding last year's situation, I covered this a bit in the discussion thread I made back in the summer. Basically, everything on the tech side was amazing. We had guys running around practically making diamonds out of sand and two sticks of gum. Where we (or really, I) failed was internal communication and not getting all the prerequisite work done ahead of time. There was too much work to get done and not enough time to do it. Rendering is a B$#^%!!! But those problems aren't going to happen again this year. We've got new machines, new software, and a planned schedule. Wasn't cheap, but worth it ;). (On a serious note, I took what happened last year very personally. I can't change what happened, but I can make damn sure it doesn't happen twice. I owe it to the creators.)

You've brought up your concern about what you consider "trolling." This is an interesting one, because I think it all depends on what side of the coin you're looking at. On the one hand, its tough for someone who's submitting their first video to a contest only to get bumped out by someone who has already won at other conventions. On the other hand, should a video that was praised highly due to the time and effort that went into it be disqualified because its "too good" for this contest? Not to mention it would take a lot of time and effort to research every entry that comes in just to make sure it hadn't competed elsewhere before. We have enough of a challenge with our own contest to worry about someone else's.

We take steps to ensure that the entries we show aren't considered 'troll.' For example, we require every creator to actually attend the convention. This means that someone back east who goes through forums like these can't simply send in their video and forget about it until the results come in. When you make the effort to come, we really respect and appreciate it. The contest is nothing without the creators who participate, after all, and isn't it more fun when you're all gathered together to hang out and shoot the breeze?

We're not the academy awards, nor do we hold ourselves above or below anything else. We're just fans, like you, who are organizing a silly little show for other fans alike. The creators are the stars of the show - we only give them the audience.

And sorry for the long post. Just wanted to get some of my own thoughts down, that's all. We're sorry you feel this way about us, and that we won't see you guys this year, but we're listening and will take any feedback anyone wants to give us. That's the only way we'll get better at this.
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2011 AMV Contest

Postby Rider4Z » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:07 pm

i've emailed links of my entries to the email directed :3
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2011 AMV Contest

Postby MikalSaltveit » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:53 pm

Updated List: (new entries bolded)
Ryan Molina
David Nguyen
Erin Nguyen
Mike Hernandez
Nic Neidenbach
Isaac Fischer
Katherine Cullen
Jill Lanpher

Billy Taing
Victoria Galietta
Sean McPartland
Edwin Hollowell


I have recieved 15 videos. Please remember that videos I receive before December 1st have priority.

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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2011 AMV Contest

Postby Deuce Loosely » Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:05 pm

Not to mention it would take a lot of time and effort to research every entry that comes in just to make sure it hadn't competed elsewhere before.

As assistant DH of AMV for two conventions I thought I'd chirp to this tune.

I am personally in charge of trolling prevention. We have a rule that states, generally, if a video has won three or more major awards at other conventions it is disqualified. There's a topic in this forum for contest results and covers as many conventions that have registered with these forums from the past several years. I take the titles and creators' names and cross-reference them with only the winners. When any entrant to our contest is spotted among the results, it is flagged until I determine it qualifies. We, at Katsucon last year, had to axe a few on these grounds but it didn't hurt our entry count.

On the same note, this is why there's always more than two people running a contest / department: delegation of responsibilities. Time and effort are the responsibility of the contest administrators and shouldn't be used as an excuse to not keep the trolls at bay.

Also, this issue goes toward show quality. If there are videos in it that people have seen several times at other conventions people become disappointed. I know it irks me to see the same entries at every convention I attend (I go to six each year) and feel compelled to check the troll quotient when I get home. It happened at AUSA this year...twice...and both won their categories...again. I understand the viewers don't HAVE to vote for those but there are more who will vote for a favorite than think about how many awards it may have already won.

Having said all that, in summary, there are benefits and methods to curtailing troll activity. HOWEVER...I do take into consideration that, even though LA is a big place amid a densely-populated region, There are other factors that err toward the other side of this argument.

1. The mere fact one MUST attend the convention to enter the contest, proxy or no, will prevent a great number of people (such as myself) from submitting. I'm on the opposite coast - you do the math. :P
2. Given the above reasoning, the overall number of entries received is likely very low compared to a contest which accepts them from anywhere. You don't need math to figure out that two hours is gonna be extremely tough to fill with quality videos under those conditions.
3. This is but ONE convention among many in this country alone, never mind California. If the required attendance to enter is a problem, there's always another around the corner elsewhere.

In summary, I think that one rule about mandatory attendance will drive almost all trolls out of contention. At the same time, it also prevents a lot of legitimate contestants from entering. This issue is clearly, where ALA is concerned, "six of one, half-dozen the other." I just thought I'd lend some clarity and insight from a completely outside, objective view. Take it as you will.

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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2011 AMV Contest

Postby Sephiroth » Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:18 pm

Well i may only be able to attend sunday. i work most ever day of the week and sunday is the ony day i can possibly get off completely.
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2011 AMV Contest

Postby anneke » Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:27 pm

Not having a no trolling rule is also not much incentitive for a creator to enter. Why should I risk sending a video to the contest, when it won't have a fair chance with the audience because trolls are allowed. I may as just wait until I have a video that has won at one of the other cons and then submit it. Heck, because you have no rules about the age of the video, I have some old award winners I could send in. But not going to bother, because I don't want to risk it and have my hard work wasted. Which is exactly how I felt when I submitted a video, only to see it go up against a troll. Because sadly audiences suffer from mob mentality and they just vote for the troll again...
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Re: Anime Los Angeles 2011 AMV Contest

Postby MikalSaltveit » Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:29 pm

And some of us believe submitting and then never even bothering to show up is trolling. It is lucky for all of us that there are so many conventions that this even becomes an issue.

Anneke, you always send us your worst work because you are afraid of losing. Get over it, and stop trolling the AMV Contest updates thread. If you want make suggestions we will make a thread for that later.

Attending one day is fine, you just have to stop by the AMV Booth at some point during the weekend.

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