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Vegas vs. Premiere

Postby nommay » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:18 pm

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It seems to me that many people say that premiere wins hands down. But I don't know why. I have used them both, and I don't really see any advantages to Premiere (I used CS4 if that makes a difference). I like Vegas because it is simple and unintimidating, but I want to use what's best. What advantages does Premiere have?
Also, what is the best version of Premiere for a beginner to use? I have a good computer, but the CS4 trial still lagged a bit. So should I use something else if I do switch to premiere?
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Re: Vegas vs. Premiere

Postby Vax » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:26 pm

:O
When I used sony vegas, I thought it was the most awsome thing around, then I switched to premiere and the overall layout and interface is much more comfortable to work with. It's easier to move around and stuff. Though the new Sony Vegas 9 pro looks similar to Adobe, so you might want to try that.
Well premiere files have the ability to be opened in Adobe After Affects along with photoshop. If anything use Adobe Premiere pro cs3 because it's more lenient with the minimum requirements.
I'd say use Vegas if you're an effect-based person, because it'd be easier to apply it in the same program where as adobe you have to import in AE and sometimes the timeline is confusing and takes a while to figure out.
Premiere has some issues exporting with lossless codec (lag, huffy). Your best bet is uncompressed providing you have the space, where as Vegas has no issues exporting those.

If anything I say Adobe.
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Re: Vegas vs. Premiere

Postby nommay » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:51 pm

Many thanks :D I've been looking for a reason to start learning After Effects anyways (definitely the most intimidating thing I have ever seen, imo XD), so it's good to know that it takes advantage of it.
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Re: Vegas vs. Premiere

Postby The Origonal Head Hunter » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:53 pm

Premiere Pro 2.0 :up:

Unless, of course, you're using vista- then it's CS3 and up.

Premiere I think is better simply because of Avisynth support. Saves me the trouble of both needing huge file space for lossless full-length episodes and the trouble of hunting down clips to chop up in VirtualDubMod. A four-step process of getting clips into my program becomes 2-step.
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Re: Vegas vs. Premiere

Postby Vivaldi » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:50 pm

Vegas and premire will functionally give you the exact same result, and neither's really harder or easier than the other. It's all about tastes. If you already have vegas, there's absolutly no good reason to switch.


And you can use after effects perfectly fine with vegas (I speak from experience) the only difference is with vegas you have to create your own workflow instead of having adobe bridge. Not worth an extra few $100 in my opinion.
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Re: Vegas vs. Premiere

Postby JaddziaDax » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:37 am

both are just as good as the others, and besides the top video on this site was made with magix and mspaint
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Re: Vegas vs. Premiere

Postby post-it » Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:10 am

Premiere has had a longer life "in the Video Editing Department" than Vegas.

Q: then what could possibly be the difference ?
A: the way it handles Transitions!

( i.e. .. anybody who has purchased a camera with its own editing software
has bound to run into Avid's "DVD Movie Maker 2 Editor." - it sucks for transitions;
breaking-apart the videos before and after the transition takes place and usually
making the videos it is connecting to have "Green Screen" squares disrupting the
connections between scenes. Vegas is getting better at hiding this error but, Primiere
no longer has this error as an issue. ( after Adobe Premiere 5.1 ) And THAT is the
big difference, in a nut-shell, between Premiere and Vegas. Magix is getting better
at not causing transition errors and they have AiST to thank for their improvements. )

note: there are two different divisions of Avid Video Software; I'm picking on the
MGI side of its line ( the one line video wonders they loosely call Editors.
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Re: Vegas vs. Premiere

Postby AaronAMV » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:48 pm

I like Vegas wayyyy more than Premiere.

I originally worked with Vegas 7.0, that stopped working, used Premiere CS3 for a little less than a month, got Vegas 6.0 to work with Vista, and I'm sticking with it. The interface is much easier IMO. I think it depends on what you use before the other. If you use Vegas, then Premiere, most people will say Premiere sucks. If you start with Premiere, most people are going to end up saying Vegas sucks. :/
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Re: Vegas vs. Premiere

Postby Vax » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:13 pm

Aaron, not me. O:
I started with Vegas, got premiere and fucking loved it!
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Re: Vegas vs. Premiere

Postby AaronAMV » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:20 pm

Vax wrote:Aaron, not me. O:
I started with Vegas, got premiere and fucking loved it!


If you use Vegas, then Premiere, most people will say Premiere sucks. If you start with Premiere, most people are going to end up saying Vegas sucks. :/
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Re: Vegas vs. Premiere

Postby Vax » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:49 pm

AaronAMV wrote:
Vax wrote:Aaron, not me. O:
I started with Vegas, got premiere and fucking loved it!


If you use Vegas, then Premiere, most people will say Premiere sucks. If you start with Premiere, most people are going to end up saying Vegas sucks. :/

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Re: Vegas vs. Premiere

Postby nommay » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:55 pm

Thanks a lot guys! I'm sticking with Vegas :)
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Re: Vegas vs. Premiere

Postby post-it » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:37 am

I started with AiST's "Media Mania TV Pro" then moved up to AiST's Extreme 4.0

the editer I used prior to AiST products were Avid 3.0 ( Apple ) & Asymetric's Video Producer 4.0
and I actually have a built-in HATE for Adobe Premiere & Sony ANYTHING; however ...
were I to choose, and I can afford it, it would not be Avid, Sony nor Adobe!

I'll say X2 to the satement of, "whatever you start with is the one you'll love best.
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Re: Vegas vs. Premiere

Postby blabbler » Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:22 pm

i started with premiere, then got avid mc3 which is by far the smoothest and most intuitive nle (for me), now i'm using premiere again, but missing the way avid trims and deals with bins & subclips and stuff.

avid is awsm, but the workflow (while presumably great for post houses) is kind of long winded for amvs
the way you trim is really nice. you can shuttle with jkl, then switch to trim mode and trim with jkl too, it's far better than wanking around with the mouse in premiere (why can't you shuttle in the trimmer in premiere??!). mc3 has an integrated compositor too, but it's like a tweaked version of boris and not even close to shake or ae.

fcp is really popular, integrates with shake (which is apparently on the way out, but really powerful node based compositor)

premiere is sometimes used on small productions, and presumably used a fair bit by freelancers, but is generally frowned upon :D if you're using ae, ps, illustrator etc the integration is great.

vegas is great for the money, but i hated using it - the retarded trimmer and speed limit when you scrub with the mouse made it unberable for me. i think vegas is a good enough all rounder, you can do a bit of everything with it, although you'll probably want ae or boris before long.
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Re: Vegas vs. Premiere

Postby LivingFlame » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:00 pm

As far as NLEs are concerned, I still prefer Vegas and it was like the 4th editor I worked with (if you count WMM). Actually, my path has been a little chaotic.

WMM > Premiere Pro 1.5 > Speed Razor > Vegas 6 > Premiere CS2 > Vegas 7 > Vegas 8 > Final Cut Express > Premiere CS3 > Final Cut Pro > Vegas 8

That said, I just find Vegas to be the easiest to use. There are some things that other programs are more powerful at, but nothing that's really affected me. And I can mask in Vegas without having to export frames to PS or take the video into AE. :up:

Just need to try Avid one of these days. =\
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