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Which Video Editor is the easiest to learn - open to debate

Postby post-it » Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:45 am

OK .. lets try a question no one has ever asked:
Which Is The Easiest Editor To Learn?

Rules are:
1) No FAQ researching ( newbe's never read those things anyways' )
2) No Pop-ups' ( unless your hovering-over a certain section too long! )
3) Easiest to Load and Go.
4) No Project Settings Changes ( everything defaulted and ready for use. )
and finally
5) Easiest to SAVE.

I've seen quite a few of them come and go. I've played with
many of them and wasted around $8,000°° on Newer Wannabe's.

I believe that the time has come to finally answer the
simplest question ever asked at ANY video EDITING board
and has never been answered by those who can afford everything!
"Which Video Editor is the easiest to learn?"
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Re: Which Video Editor is the easiest to learn - open to deb

Postby Pwolf » Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:26 pm

based on those requirements:

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Re: Which Video Editor is the easiest to learn - open to deb

Postby Seijin_Dinger » Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:30 pm

But Pwolf, I thought all the 1337 editorz used Windows Movie Maker as its the best and easiest to work with
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Re: Which Video Editor is the easiest to learn - open to deb

Postby Pwolf » Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:34 pm

Seijin_Dinger wrote:But Pwolf, I thought all the 1337 editorz used Windows Movie Maker as its the best and easiest to work with


I'm just following the rules.
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Re: Which Video Editor is the easiest to learn - open to deb

Postby Seijin_Dinger » Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:39 pm

Ive never been 1 for following the rules I guess
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Re: Which Video Editor is the easiest to learn - open to deb

Postby Niotex » Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:54 pm

Complexity is for fools. People know you mean business when you whip out notepad. Need to bring your project over to a client? Doubt they'll have all those fancy NLE's that only the posers use. Just forward them the text file and you're good. What is that you say? Your client doesn't have a personal computer in any way shape or form? That's okay! Notepad has got your back, just print it out on a piece of paper and show that to your client! And it's fully backwards compatible with pen/pencil! I'll bet you $10 that After Effects isn't that flexible.
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Re: Which Video Editor is the easiest to learn - open to deb

Postby post-it » Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:29 pm

and if the Rules are:
1) No FAQ researching ( newbe's never read those things anyways' )
2).
3).
4) No Project Settings Changes ( everything defaulted and ready for use. )
and finally
5).

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Re: Which Video Editor is the easiest to learn - open to deb

Postby Pwolf » Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:10 pm

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Re: Which Video Editor is the easiest to learn - open to deb

Postby CodeZTM » Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:28 pm

Almost every editor has those requirements. Even just 1 and 4. Is it that hard to crack open a help manual for a few hours/days and learn what you're doing?
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Re: Which Video Editor is the easiest to learn - open to deb

Postby Cannonaire » Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:07 am

The only editor I know of that meets most of those requirements (though not technically an NLE cause you have to edit linearly) is the Playskool... I mean Windows Movie Maker. Not only does it not make you fiddle with settings, but it doesn't even let you! Want all of your footage to just go right in and have the same AR? It will stretch and sqeeze everything into conformity. Saving can often be a problem though, so I dunno. I wouldn't actually recommend anyone use WMM. Ever.
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Re: Which Video Editor is the easiest to learn - open to deb

Postby post-it » Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:55 pm

I wouldn't even attempt to let people know that WMM "is a Video Editor/Sequencer" but;
I'd like to find something else, something with only two video lines and two audio lines.

Asymetrics used to have a two line editor but I can't find anyone other than them with only two lines.
( correction .. Avid 3.0 also had just two lines of video. ) just a simple Line1 video fade to Line2 transistion.
[[ the sound would remain the same unless you selected it fade with the video ]] and stretch-to-fit
the video's length ( auto-frame-rate switch )

As silly as it may sound, this is all I'm looking for and "Ta-Da!" .. .. .. its nowhere to be found! x_x
Why should anyone be forced to revert back to 1993 operating systems to make simple edits for videos?

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Re: Which Video Editor is the easiest to learn - open to deb

Postby Pwolf » Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:19 pm

why limit yourself to only two tracks for audio and video? that doesn't make a program easier or more difficult.
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Re: Which Video Editor is the easiest to learn - open to deb

Postby post-it » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:47 pm

Pwolf wrote:why limit yourself to only two tracks for audio and video?
that doesn't make a program easier or more difficult.
. for those just starting-out, two tracks is really all they need;
for those who have been at this a while, 32 tracks are sometimes 'not enough!

I'm basing the two line editor on a simple cut/join and/or blend/merge type of editing system.
.. ? why ? that's what this board started-out-with; Adobe Primiere 4.0, 5.0, 5.1 & 5.2 and no layers.
.. if they can see "what is taking place on one of those types of editors" then the newer editing
systems won't be so difficult to grasp/understand!
.. Too many questions are being asked about "how to edit" and "tutorials" while everyone on this
board are skilled at Special Effects and Layering Technic's. There is a flaw in the system and its
name is "what's the best way to learn to edit?" .. the answer; with the same editors we started-out-with!

umm .. no; its not practical to advise people on "how-to-use" something without "them having
at least an idea of how we did it!" Copy & Pasting area's that were covered-up with sub-titles
is not something the Video Editor was designed to do; regardless if V.D. has a Logo-Away filter
or not!!! If we wanted a clean opening/closing to a series, we went frame-by-frame to do it!
"THAT is what people are ASKING ABOUT" and there is no tutorial nor transition on earth which
can illustrate THAT kind of technic!! unless, we bring them "back" to where "we started"!

yes, there is a logic to my madness .. no; it doesn't come with a Manual nor an Index!!
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Re: Which Video Editor is the easiest to learn - open to deb

Postby Pwolf » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:33 pm

That doesn't make any sense when Premiere 4.0 was the first version of premiere to add multiple video and audio layers.

It's not a matter of what they need or don't need. I may have not needed more then 2 layers when i started but having the option to add more layers didn't make it any more difficult for me to learn the software. I just used the software I had and learned how to use it. New people want to know everything as soon as they open the program. That's the real problem. It's not the software, it's the user. People need to pick a software and learn it. It's that simple. There isn't going to be any piece of software that will be so straight forward an monkey can use it. It doesn't matter what the software is, the concepts are all the same. People need to stop being lazy and learn their software and learn their editing basics. After that, it doesn't matter what software you use.

Learning Premiere 5.0 took me a weekend to figure out the basics without any help. After Effects took me a day or two as well, without any help. These aren't difficult program if you take the time to figure out how they work instead of trying to jump right into advanced techniques.

If you really think that teaching someone properly is to give them the software you started on, i'll go find the 1 video (no audio) layer mpeg cutter/joiner I started on and we'll see how they like that. Scrap that, give them 2 VCRs and see if that makes it easier, thats what a lot of original org members started on.

Your logic is ass backwards and doesn't make any sense at all.
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Re: Which Video Editor is the easiest to learn - open to deb

Postby Kawatta-kun » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:04 pm

Dudes.
Sony Vegas.
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