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Audio Timing Off.

Postby BJR » Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:07 am

Okay so i am making an AMV, but when i want to see if the clip fits with the sound the timing is way off.
So when its supposed to be on another part its still near the beggining.
And when i save it there is a great big chunk of nothing at the end that i cant get rid of. Any Tips?
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Postby NS » Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:40 pm

Well in your preview window of WMM.. the timing is off because WMM sux at previews... I would alwyas like save the project after a couple changes and see how it looks and such....

as for blank spot... possibly where you don't have any clips laid?
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Postby BurningLeaves » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:51 pm

Ohhh I had this problem so much when I used WMM. There might be a fix for it that I dont know of, but if not I can give you some tips that have worked for me:

Timing Off:

This happed with almost every video I tried to do in wmm. My little backdoor tip for this is After importing your audio drag it to the left and leave your self 10 seconds (or so) to edit with. Once your done with those 10 seconds drag the audio to the right another 10 seconds and so on. You might still have some problems twords the middle/end but at least in the begining you dont have to save every 10 seconds to make sure its right. I cant guarantee this will work for you but it did for me, many times.

Extended Audio:

I have no idea why it does this. But the audio gets extended in the actual program so you have to cut it off at the source. Before you save check just how far your audio clip goes. If you have a 4 minuite song but you notice the track is playing for 8 you need to A. Cut it down to the right time (it usually loops itself so the 1/2 way mark is good just make sure before exporting) B Delete audio track and re-import ( I recomend A for speed) If you already finished your video and the audio is the only thing messed up (looped) You can load your video into VirtualDub click Streams, Disable the audio stream. Click Add (still on the stream menue) Then add your Mp3. Then you will also have to delete the ending of the video were it will just be black while the song plays for the second time.

It gets said alot, but I really do recomend switching from WMM it will give you nothing but problems. I recomend Magix They offer a free trial and from personal exsperiance its a very easy transition between the two programs. If you decide to buy it its only $50 wich is cheep concidering the average price for a decent editing program.
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Postby NS » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:27 pm

The audio never got extended or whatever for me in the program... I would jus tsave the project AFTER shortening the audio whenever I would do it. Then I'd just drag the audio to its original length.
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:57 pm

As a point of knowledge, this is a known problem with WMM and one of the reasons people tend to switch to other editing programs.
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Postby BJR » Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:34 am

Thanks So Much!
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Postby Master_Shinigami666 » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:17 am

all u need to do, is go back to the origional project file and move the sound file over until the video files matche
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Postby Autraya » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:23 pm

Master_Shinigami666 wrote:all u need to do, is go back to the origional project file and move the sound file over until the video files matche

ZOMG!! that totally fixed all sync problems with WMM!! :evil:
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Postby post-it » Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:00 pm

.. on many older editors there is a "Match Audio to Video Length" option .. today that option is not needed -- unless your computer is slower than a Laptop!

Editing requires a lot of internal commands:
1) get the Image.
2) mark the location.
3) get the Audio section.
4) mark the location.
..... repeat as needed.

.. the problem with that is your computers ability to divide the Audio into proper sections.
( That problem was solved when editors started using API-Calls in the programs. Win98 )
(( That problem re-appeared when Windows moved everything back to non-API programming. WinNT))
((( problem solved by using Real-Time Editors 8-) )))

WMM and WMM2 are NOT real-time editors; as such, you will need to match the Audio to the Video my magic :oops:
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Postby Master_Shinigami666 » Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:10 am

Autraya wrote:
Master_Shinigami666 wrote:all u need to do, is go back to the origional project file and move the sound file over until the video files matche

ZOMG!! that totally fixed all sync problems with WMM!! :evil:

yeah it does :roll:
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Postby kikai_saigono » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:06 pm

Master_Shinigami666 wrote:
Autraya wrote:
Master_Shinigami666 wrote:all u need to do, is go back to the origional project file and move the sound file over until the video files matche

ZOMG!! that totally fixed all sync problems with WMM!! :evil:

yeah it does :roll:

yeah Aut, this kiddo obviously knows more about it than you. I think he should write the next sticky :O
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Re: Audio Timing Off.

Postby Arigatomina » Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:34 pm

BJR wrote:And when i save it there is a great big chunk of nothing at the end that i cant get rid of. Any Tips?

Convert your audio file to wav and reimport it. Make sure the last video clip in your timeline ends when the audio does. If there's still a chunk of silent black space at the end of the video, chop it off in virtualdub.

If you're using wav, try ripping the song again (or converting the original mp3 to wav again) because it sounds like your audio file is wma, or a really nasty mp3. If you're using a still frame at the end (a picture file or a clip that's slowed down a whole bunch), zoom in on your timeline and chop the end of that clip off so the video matches the end of the audio exactly. Try to never let one end before the other.
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Postby lynit » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:46 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:As a point of knowledge, this is a known problem with WMM and one of the reasons people tend to switch to other editing programs.


Yeah. Another way that I used to fix this is to play it through from the beginning.
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Postby Autraya » Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:14 am

post-it wrote:WMM and WMM2 are NOT real-time editors; as such, you will need to match the Audio to the Video my magic :oops:
[ don't ask, we haven't figured it out either! ]
or single frame accurate either for that matter :cry: *waves magic wand*

BJR - if you Read ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides it will tell you the basics of virtual dubb as per Arigatomina's suggestion for chopping.

Kikai - yes you are right I bow to his supperior wisdom and experience in fact since the meaning of life is also 42 that must answer all questions about creation and religion... so this means we no longer need this section of the forum, the solution is so simple, so obvious I can't believe the thousands of editors before him didn't figure that out. I am so smitten by his amazing insight perhaps he will teach me the wisdom of the true path to using WMM. After that I shall bear his children out into the world and spread the word of our new savior and the method for perfect sync.
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Postby NS » Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:56 am

Autraya, it's no worries. I still for some reason worship you. and since I'm the only important one. All hail teh Outback.
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