WMM: HELP!!! - Codec problem

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Postby pinky75910 » Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:59 am

Just did a test - threw a bunch of clips from just wmv files... seemed to be going okay, then it still closed on me.
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Postby BlaCk_PeArL_27 » Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:03 am

Ok.. when your going to convert your .avi in Vdub into huffyuv get the necessary clips (like that you think if that's will sync in the audio of your clips or so...) then check your WMM if there's a huge file imported on your collections tab.

So you remove those imported clips in wmm then the problem is still there :?

I may guess on it.... did you try to play back the clips in your wmm? If so it will close automatically because wmm can *only* handle small amount of huffyuv file.

Then as I will say *Do not play/playback the clips in the time line* on wmm with the song or audio. It won't going to sync well it will play a couple of sec then it will stop the BLUE guide bar but the song still playing in wmm. Or like what happen to you it will close just like that. Instead try to play it in the place where it is or try to play it in the player you have got in your PC but if you have VCL much better or Media Player too...... then cut the clips if you think other clips won't fit in the song and so on....

Then after that don't put all the clips in the timeline it will closed that too instead add the clips in the timeline less 3mins or 2mins because as I can see in mine wmm won't accept more it freeze or closed it. Then save it "SAVE as....." this part is very hard for me as i can say I don't know to you if you got more space but if not try to check it first before you save the clips.

Then try those as I say if not tell me more what error you have got in your WMM. ;)
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Postby Autraya » Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:09 am

pinky75910 wrote:Just did a test - threw a bunch of clips from just wmv files... seemed to be going okay, then it still closed on me.

yeah it does that... crappy program :cry:
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Postby Kariudo » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:20 pm

or instead of encoding entire episodes you could just encode small parts of the episodes in vdub (using mark in and mark out, the two triangle-ish buttons on the right)

this way you eliminate a lot of the material that you won't use (and give wmm a fighting chance), you also get frame accuracy (at least as frame-accurate as your source.

I remember reading that WMM's timtline can only get down to 15 frames (as opposed to premiere which can get down to frame-by-frame)
this can cause orphan frames, you do the best that wmm can...but wmm sucks

you're going to make small clips sometime in the amv making proocess, why not do it in a program that can actually do what you want.
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Postby Ch3aLs3A L!n@ » Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:52 am

Don't use big encoded clips it will keep you crashing all the time as it happen to me everytime I try to make AMV in wmm that for sure.

Kariudo in your last sentence it confuse me but I agree that wmm SUX as hell as if cannot find the source why it does happen always :?
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Postby whiteash » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:13 am

Okay, WMM isn't crappy, it's just very sensitive to codecs. Go to this site to learn how to turn off the codecs that upset it and to avoid attaching codecs to it that will screw it over.

I've been using WMM for ages; I now have Windows Media Center. WMM is updated in it, but I still had to fix the codecs. Don't worry, anyone can do this.

http://www.papajohn.org/MM2-Issues-Acce ... odecs.html

Just read and rename as needed.
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Postby BlaCk_PeArL_27 » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:22 pm

Hey! Thanks WhiteAsh I thinkI need that one too ^_^ since I got Window Media Center :lol:

I did knw that so guess try to read all of those, thanks again ;)
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Postby pinky75910 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:55 am

Hmm.. That's odd, somehow I wasn't being notified of new posts. Not entirely sure what everyone is suggesting - I really have no idea how to encode things, and just a scene at a time? Eee...

Ya think it might work better if I delete and reimport everything?

Whiteash, there are codecs that mess up WMM? I'll have to check out your site. Thanks.

I could work with WMM fine before this codec thing. Could any of these other downloads messed it up somehow? I've never had this much trouble with it before.
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Postby BlaCk_PeArL_27 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:44 am

Yeah as I can say you need the right codec (bcuz those comment before didn't work fine) for your video that can also fit in WMM is like FFDShow or CCCP and other but you can not use both of them it will freeze your WMM I tried that before. ;)

I would say remove all the codec you installed in your PC then get the right codec whatever you have kind video format so it will work. Then for editing use Vdub or VdubMod and the rest you know ;)


Though if someone suggest the AMVapp I say it wouldn't work in my wmm and my other player :(
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Postby whiteash » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:57 am

You don't even have to go that far, though it helps. Just follow the instructions on the papajohn website!!
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Postby pinky75910 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:12 pm

Is it even a codec problem anymore? It's upset with all file types it seems.
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Postby BlaCk_PeArL_27 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:27 pm

:lol: yeah it is.... :>XD

Well thanks WhiteAsh ^_^ some of my files and work is pretty smoothly working with no probs ;)
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Postby Kariudo » Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:58 pm

as black_pearl_27 said, it is still a codec problem.
where's Jaddziadax when you need her...

I'll just post a pic she put up. (it probably took longer to find it than it would have taken for me to make and upload one myself...)
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see the two circled buttons? those are the mark-in and mark-out buttons.

go to the first frame that you want to encode and click the mark-in button (the one on the left)
go to the last frame you want to encode and click the mark-out button (the one on the left)
if your selection is big enough, you will see that blue bar.
it marks the footage that will be encoded when you save

by default, vdub/mod selects all of the video that you import.

now go to file and click "save as"
near the bottom, you should see a box that says "full processing mode"
you can change it to fast recompress...but it won't really hurt your video quality if you leave it as full processing mode.
below that should be the codec that your video will be encoded with. If it doesn't say huffyuv or lagarith, click the "change" button and select huffy or lagarith from the list.
(you can also do this by going to video and clicking "compression". it'l give you the same list of codecs, the only difference is where and when you select the codec)

after that, name your file and click save.

if you are still unsure about vdubmod, read this
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Postby Krisqo » Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:00 pm

I've been sitting back and reading all this and cannot help but scratch my head. I recall back in February of 2003 I made a video with WMM. I will admit, I used footage not ripped from DVDs and they were a wide array of sources (Xvid, Divx, WMV). But the kicker... it was 30mins long and I had NO problem editing it (aside from the occasional crash) and exporting.

What I think is that your WMM might just be overly buggy. Have you looked for any past updates released since Service Pack 2? Are you POSITIVE your computer can run it. No viruses, trojans, ad-ware, etc on your PC. Plenty of HD space. Run a De-frag. Check all this out. It may be something lurking on the inside of your PC and not the clips themselves.
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Postby pinky75910 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:36 pm

whiteash wrote:http://www.papajohn.org/MM2-Issues-Acce ... odecs.html

Just read and rename as needed.


DL'd 16 new Security Updates from Windows Update.

Did this papajohn thing, discovered a whole bunch of these "errors" but I don't see how to "check" them off. Says I can do something about deleting them.

Tried another test file, all wmvs, it worked! Tried avis, no good.
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