Premiere Pro 1.5 render problems

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Premiere Pro 1.5 render problems

Postby Immorrel » Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:30 pm

I'm currently experimenting with AVS scripts in Premiere and have everything working (finally) but when I put a segment on the timeline I'm unable to render that segment into something that is viewable.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Postby Krisqo » Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:47 pm

By rendering out do you mean preview rendering or exporting the whole project?
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Postby Immorrel » Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:58 pm

preview render. I hit enter and it just starts from the beginning without rendering anything.
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Postby Krisqo » Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:06 pm

What I do to force Premiere to render ANYTHING in the timeline is to create a blank video and stick it in the upper most track on your timeline and have it cover the whole span of the project. Then change the opacity to 0. Now when you put anything into the timeline

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you should be able to get Premiere to render.

Aside from that, I never had any luck with straight AVS files in Premiere. I have found that converting them to fake AVI files using VFAPIConv has alleviated most if not all the problems I've had with AVS files in Premiere.
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Postby Immorrel » Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:28 pm

Now for the stupid question, how do you make a "blank" AVI?
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Postby The Origonal Head Hunter » Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:35 pm

could just create a title text in premiere and just leave it blank.
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Postby Krisqo » Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:52 pm

Or File->New->Black Video.

Basically you can make it anything.
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Postby Immorrel » Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:39 pm

Ok, new problem now. I can render but it still isn't rendering the stuff I put on the timeline. It only renders the black video I have on there, it notices that there is something there where the AVS clip is, but it doesn't do anything with it. Thanks in advance for any more help you can provide.
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Postby Krisqo » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:48 pm

Did you remember to set the blank video to 0% opacity?
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Postby Immorrel » Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:11 am

yup, I also moved it to the bottom video line so that everything was "on top" of it just in case the opacity was being stupid. Still no love.
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Postby Krisqo » Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:43 am

Oh man... umm...

I'm assuming you can see the files in the source window? And what codec are you using under the render settings?
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Postby LivingFlame » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:15 pm

The timeline is the active window when you go to render, right? Premiere's got this finicky thing about the timeline being the active window, else it'll try and render whatever file is selected in the Project window. (So if the black video were selected in the Project window, and that was the active window, it'd render that instead of the video in the timeline.)

Or at least CS3 on Mac is that way. Just something to double check; it's thrown me before by doing that. =\
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Postby Immorrel » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:21 pm

Krisqo wrote:Oh man... umm...

I'm assuming you can see the files in the source window? And what codec are you using under the render settings?


OK, apparently I changed something and now I have things at least showing up how they're supposed to be. However, once I render the preview, nothing shows up where the clip is supposed to be. I'm using the MJPEG codec included in the FFDShow codec pack. If you guys have any suggestions, I'd appreciate the help.
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Postby Krisqo » Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:37 am

I don't think it's the codec since I was gonna suggest an MJPEG one anyway.

You got my brain running for a loop here. One of the last things I can think of. Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling Premiere?

If that fails, then the very last thing I can suggest is to try VFAPI. Convert the AVS files to fake AVI ones and then replace your AVS files in Premiere with the new AVI ones. They should be exactly the same so if the replacement works, the clips in your timeline will change too. Also, when you go to render with VFAPIConv, it will also let you know if something is wrong with your scripts. I've had VDub like my script and VFAPI hate it.

Now you see why I abandoned using AVS files straight. I have a longer story as to why, but I don't wanna bore you.
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Postby Immorrel » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:11 pm

I did try reinstalling and nothing changed. I've also tried using VFAPI, but every time I use it I get an error when I try to run the .d2v I ripped in it. It also doesn't see the avs files so I've given up on this particular effort for now.

I've got a decent avisynth script so I'll just use that to encode a lagarith copy of my source and go with that. Luckily, I have the HD space to do it, I was just trying to get this method to work so I didn't have to use it. Either way though, thanks for the help Krisqo
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