Premiere Elements 4 Jerky Playback

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Premiere Elements 4 Jerky Playback

Postby CardShark440 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:04 pm

Hello everyone. This is my first post. I have recently bought Adobe PE4 and had some trouble getting it to import Xvid/Divx but downloaded the codec and now it works fine except that in the preview window on occassion the video lags or gets jerky and its not because my PC is below specs. Its easily up to snuff. I am wondering if there is anyway to get rid of this lag and if not will the lag show up in the finished product?

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Postby mirkosp » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:24 pm

You are NOT supposed to edit videos using compressed sources. Convert your xvid/divx files to a lossless codec such as huffyuv or lagarith. You'll find these two codecs in the amvapp along with alot of other useful and free stuff for amv editing. ;)
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Postby CardShark440 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:40 pm

Gotcha. Okey dokey. If at all possible I would rather not have to convert my files. I have a very large number of them so I think it would take alot of time to go through them one by one, but if that is the only way... how do I go about doing that.

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Postby mirkosp » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:00 pm

Well... there *is* a way to frameserve compressed files to a video editor... it would involve to make fake avis with vfapiconv or with ffdshow's makeavis. But as it looks like it doesn't work very great for everyone, I don't know how much is it worth trying. It happens to lag or give strange errors and stuff on some PCs, so it would be better to just encode the episodes you got into a lossless codec and you won't experience any problem (perhaps the problem you might have would be a lack of HD space...).
Also, I should suggest you to read this. It's a long reading, but it is very helpful as it explains everything that comes before and after the actual editing of an amv in a video editor.
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Postby CardShark440 » Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:21 pm

Ok well what if the problem is with AVI's? I have the same problem. The AVI's get jerky in the preview window.
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Postby Kariudo » Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:29 pm

the problem isn't the container (.avi in this case) but rather with the codec (as mentioned earlier)

JaddziaDax wrote:open the video file in virtualdub mod go to video->compression->Huffyuv or Lagarith

then go to file->save

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use those to mark the beginning and the end of the "clips" you want so you can save room

if you want to edit reliably, you will have to do this

and out of curiosity, what are your system specs?
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Postby CardShark440 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:55 am

Ok gotcha, but as I said earlier, is there anyway to do this without going through one file at a time? I have quite a few and would rather not have to go through one by one by one. If I have to then I have to and am willing. Also one final question. I haven't tried this yet but I have some anime on my itunes (Speed Grapher, Gunslinger Girl, etc.) and was wondering if there was anyway to get those out of Itunes and into Adobe PE4 for editing.

(About the system specs... I am on my labtop right now and will post my specs as soon as I get back to my desktop.)

Thanks for all the help btw. I know noobs can be irritating.
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:48 pm

CardShark440 wrote:Ok gotcha, but as I said earlier, is there anyway to do this without going through one file at a time?
Yes, there is, it involves just appending the diferent video files one after the other until you have them all in the script. This single file will most likely be upwards of 100GB in size depending on the length of the series.
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Postby CardShark440 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:01 pm

So essentially just combing the entire series into one big clip, then converting that big clip to the lagarith or huffy codec, yes?
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:25 pm

CardShark440 wrote:So essentially just combing the entire series into one big clip, then converting that big clip to the lagarith or huffy codec, yes?
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Postby CardShark440 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:58 pm

Ok then well I guess it would be wiser to go through it one by one. DOes anybody know anything about the Itunes Question?
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Postby CardShark440 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:58 pm

Having some problems with Virtual dub. Ok Everything goes smoothly until I try and save the file and replace the old file. It says it cannot access the file because it is being used by another person or program. What am I doing wrong?
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Postby matt73 » Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:07 pm

Are you trying to save the lagarith or huffy codec encoded avi over the top of the divx one?

Overwriting a file is the same as deleting it then writing a new one with the same file name. But movie files are far too big to fit into memory, so VirtualDub constantly reads the source file while writing the new file. It needs the old file to make the new file.

To fix it, save the new avi as a new filename, then only delete the old one when it is finished making the new one.

Incidentally, I always just choose the bits of the anime that I want and just encode those as little clips with VirtualDub. Saves a lot of space compared with encoding the whole thing, and short clips are more manageable in the editing app. It does mean that you need to have VirtualDub open most of the time though and put up with the delay as it encodes the clips.
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Postby CardShark440 » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:01 am

yeah I got it fixed thanks. You were dead on in your suggestion. Thanks
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