Project Settings in Premiere, along with many many questions

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Project Settings in Premiere, along with many many questions

Postby Pas » Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:31 am

*sigh*

Ok, so in short, because I was a total noob, I started my AMV without deinterlacing it, and then I realized after I rendered it that it looked like total crap, and that I would have to do everything from scratch.

Problem is, I screwed it up so many times already, I'm stressing out over the fact that I can't even get one decent quality render of my AMV. Not even one.

So, I am going to be super totally goddamn safe this time, and hopefully luck is on my side.

I have read through these guides (as well as many others):
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... setup.html
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... deo2.htm#1

Here is a step by step of me setting up in Premiere, I thought I'd include screendumps to make sure that everything is right, because I get the feeling the problem is coming from the root.
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Postby Pas » Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:38 am

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Dunno which codec to choose for settings

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I'm making a 640x360 AMV that I want to be able to upload at the .org, so I need to deinterlace. Not sure about framerate.

Ok, now that's out of the way, I have some questions:

- Are those settings correct? If not, what do I need to change?

- I remember reading something about the fact the Premiere automatically interlaces you footage when you import it, and it told you how to turn that off, though I've forgotten where it was or how to do it

- I am resizing some footage in avisynth to be put in Premiere. All I'm doing is resizing and deinterlacing.
My script is:
AviSource("C:\LuckyStarEpisode16.avi")
BicubicResize(640,360)
FieldDeinterlace()

Though, when I put that into premiere, it was still interlaced. I have no idea why, though was it because I resized before deinterlacing? Or something with Premiere? If not, then what would it be?

- If everything has been properly deinterlaced, and all the project settings are correct, when I view my project at 100% in the preview screen, it should have no interlacing of any sort, correct?

- Lastly, how should I export it, if it all works (out of the codecs I have)

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Some of these questions I think I may have asked before, and other questions may seem stupid, but if you could spare a little time to help, that would be much appreciated.

Just being able to get the technical stuff sorted would be a huge leap, and I'd at least be able to finish the AMV in time for the contest.

Thanks a lot.
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Postby Falconone » Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:46 pm

Ok the only thing i know is that you choose by the compressor "None". that is what i choose. By the others i dont know.
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Postby Gepetto » Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:15 pm

Your Timebase should be the same framerate as your footage. So should the display format.

Square pixels.

The audio sample rate should be the same (or lower) than your source audio. 44100 (the sample rate for CD audio) is usually right. If your audio source is a DVD, 48000.

Video rendering: this is important. The compressor you select here will be used for your previews and will be the default option when you export. NEVER USE CINEPAK, it's old and bad. What you want to do here is select a quick codec like MJPEG and set it to a lower quality, so your previews render quickly. Just remember when you export to click the options button in the Save dialog and change this to None, otherwise your export will look like crap.

The field order button on the video window, which I left for last: From your thread in the AviSynth forum, I know that you're using downloaded RAWs. These are not interlaced. If they look interlaced, they probably were encoded as progressive without deinterlacing. Nonetheless, the video is stored in frames and not fields, so your project settings must have "No Fields" selected instead of lower or upper field first.

Capture is irrelevant, since your footage is already on your hard drive.

Playback is irrelevant because you won't be using Premiere to play your project on a TV.

Default sequence is irrelevant, since you can add and remove tracks whenever you choose: just right-click an existing video or audio track and select "Add/Remove Tracks"

The exact names of some of these options may be a little different since I wrote this from memory, but you'll find them easily since they're very direct.
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Postby Bauzi » Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:27 pm

Do me one big fat favor and read the guides and work with them from the beginning until the end. Really invest the time and you´ll spare of your and our time in the end.
Trust me.
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtechbeta/

It´s the best thing you can do. Things like interlacing will be clear and will be no longer a problem for you.
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Postby Sereenie » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:37 pm

Pas1990 wrote: My script is:
AviSource("C:\LuckyStarEpisode16.avi")
BicubicResize(640,360)
FieldDeinterlace()


Deinterlace before you resize, or else deinterlacing probably won't be done properly.

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Postby Kariudo » Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:16 pm

Sereenie wrote:
Pas1990 wrote: My script is:
AviSource("C:\LuckyStarEpisode16.avi")
BicubicResize(640,360)
FieldDeinterlace()


Deinterlace before you resize, or else deinterlacing probably won't be done properly.

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It should be alright as long as you don't resize vertically IIRC...but it's still a good idea to deinterlace/IVTC before most other filters
(there are some filters that need the footage to be interlaced to work properly)
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Postby Sereenie » Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:42 pm

True, true! But this seems to be resized vertically.

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Postby Scintilla » Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:02 pm

I seem to remember someone saying in some other thread that you were working with raws; if that's true, you shouldn't even need to deinterlace at all. (That is, any interlacing you see is the fault of your settings in Premiere Pro and no amount of deinterlacing the <i>source</i> will fix that.)
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Postby Pas » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:06 pm

Scintilla wrote:I seem to remember someone saying in some other thread that you were working with raws; if that's true, you shouldn't even need to deinterlace at all. (That is, any interlacing you see is the fault of your settings in Premiere Pro and no amount of deinterlacing the <i>source</i> will fix that.)


Yes, it appears that I have /failed

Anyway, I set the fields to progressive, but still, I remember there being something else you had to do... pah probably my imagination.
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