Premiere Presets

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Premiere Presets

Postby Toshiyan » Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:41 pm

In premiere when you start a project and it has you load presets what are the standard 48 khz and widescreen 48 khz?

could you give me an example of which one you would use in? Like when you should use the standard and when to use the widescreen or is that just a preferences?

And is it better to use one with a higher khz?

From what I'm guessing only widescreen captures could even use the widescreen preset but I don't really understand.

Help appreciated.
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Postby Kariudo » Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:27 pm

those presets or just common project settings, stuff like video resolution, framerate, editing mode, etc...
it should tell you the settings used for that preset on the side of that screen (I'm using premiere pro 1.5)

you could use widescreen for any project...but if you have fullscreen footage you'll get some nice black bars on the sides.

so widescreen footage -> widescreen preset
fullscreen footage -> standard preset

the 48khz thing is the audio resolution (48,000 samples per second)
dvd audio is at 48khz, cd audio is usually at 44.1khz
using a higher resolution setting than that of your audio may result in some wierd audio problems (I'm not as savvy on digital audio, so I couldn't really say what happens). AFAIK, using a lower resolution setting works just fine (but you won't get as good sound quality)

personally I just use a custom preset every time:
editing mode: video for windows
timebase: 29.97 or 24 (depending on my footage)
frame size: 720 x 480
Pixel Aspect Ratio: D1/DV NTSC 0.9 (or the widescreen counterpart)
Fields: none (progressive) *if you didn't de-interlace or IVTC your footage I suggest doing so before editing
Display format: xx.xx fps (haven't read up on the significance of drop-frame)

leave the title/action safe margins as they are
audio sample rate: 44100 hz
display format: audio samples

video rendering
compressor: huffyuv
uncheck optimize stills (from what I've heard it can speed up rendering previews...but can mess up your export)
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Postby Toshiyan » Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:37 pm

Thanks for the help, this is my first time using premiere and I've never done anything with a video besides watch it till today XD. So I'm just getting my foot into the door.

When you mentioned that having your audio resolution higher than the original and that it could cause some issues would one be just having the audio play and not the video? or just the sound of the audio.

Apparently I did something wrong when I exported a clip and it only played the audio but when I deleted the audio it played the footage fine just not audio then :P.

Again thank you for your help :).
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Postby Kariudo » Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:40 pm

it could make the audio sound wierd...pops, crackles, other distortions...I don't really know since audio isn't my forte

if you can hear audio but not see the video, then you probably have run into the classic divx/xvid problem. (this would screw up your exports as well)

basically, trying to edit video that's compressed with divx, xvid or any other inter-frame codecs can make you not able to see the video. There's been some cases where people have lost hours of work because they used divx/xvid footage
see this for more info

lossless clips are large (don't try to encode entire episodes with a lossless codec unless you have tons of HD space)
so don't be surprised when your 30 second clip ends up being a few hundred megabytes large
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Postby post-it » Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:56 pm

Kariudo wrote:it could make the audio sound wierd...pops, crackles, other distortions...
.. A 48k Audio Rate at 192k Bit Rate is quite the standard Audio setting these days. Hearing pops, crackles and clicks usually means that your Video Codec is not compatible with your editor. Yup; you got it right 8-)
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Postby Toshiyan » Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:10 am

I don't quite understand what Huffyuv is. A codec?

http://neuron2.net/www.math.berkeley.ed ... ffyuv.html

When I was reading through the site you linked me to, he mentioned:

Here are some common video formats that you should NOT edit with:

* XviD, DivX (i.e. H.263 implementations)
* x264, Ateme's H.264 implementation, Nero Recode, other H.264 implementations
* WMV
* RealVideo
* Sorenson Vision (commonly used in Quicktime containers)

So how can you tell if it is one of these? Like I know you can see the .wmv on some videos and .avi but I've never seen Xvid, if it's a compression or codec how do you figure out your video was compressed that way?
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Postby otbwavelength » Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:20 am

Toshiyan wrote:I don't quite understand what Huffyuv is. A codec?

http://neuron2.net/www.math.berkeley.ed ... ffyuv.html

When I was reading through the site you linked me to, he mentioned:

Here are some common video formats that you should NOT edit with:

* XviD, DivX (i.e. H.263 implementations)
* x264, Ateme's H.264 implementation, Nero Recode, other H.264 implementations
* WMV
* RealVideo
* Sorenson Vision (commonly used in Quicktime containers)

So how can you tell if it is one of these? Like I know you can see the .wmv on some videos and .avi but I've never seen Xvid, if it's a compression or codec how do you figure out your video was compressed that way?


right click on video in explorer
go to properties
go to "summary" tab
it should say the codec under video properties

and there you have it

pretty much here's what you should do with everything you get; i don't have the time to write out a huge tutorial on how to do it, but ask around how to use VirtualDub and Avisynth to encode all of your video clips you're going to use in the Lagarith codec.

it'll make them huge but they'll scrub through the timeline like silk and you'll never have any problems with them

also you should remove your audio layer whenever you're ripping clips from videos, you're making a music video, why would you need an audio track from the clip? saves space and time
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Postby Kariudo » Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:16 am

windows can be particular about what properties (if any) it displays.
Gspot is more reliable (click the banner in my sig)

and yes, huffyuv is a codec (more specifically a lossless codec)
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Postby Toshiyan » Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:31 pm

I downloaded huffyuv-2.1.1

and said all I needed to do to install was right click the .inf file and click install.

I've done that but it doesn't how up in premiere. Is there something else I'm suppose to do?
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Postby otbwavelength » Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:38 pm

Toshiyan wrote:I downloaded huffyuv-2.1.1

and said all I needed to do to install was right click the .inf file and click install.

I've done that but it doesn't how up in premiere. Is there something else I'm suppose to do?


it doesn't show up in your export choices for codecs etc.?

were you running premiere when you installed it? you should also try resetting your computer
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Postby Toshiyan » Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:38 pm

No it doesn't show up, I did have premiere open when I did it, though i've restarted the program and restarted the computer.

It just doesn't allow me to change anything:
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Should I try installing it again? Normally I would but I'm not sure if doing that could cause issues with view videos having two of the same codecs installed.
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:58 pm

Where are those options coming up under? The term "rendering" is being used incorrectly in talking around here a bit - you should be saving the video, not playing with the settings premiere has for preview video. I could be totally off base here (haven't exported anythign in so long my memory is a bit foggy) but explain your process for exporting your video.
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Postby Toshiyan » Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:12 pm

Kariudo wrote:video rendering
compressor: huffyuv
uncheck optimize stills (from what I've heard it can speed up rendering previews...but can mess up your export)


He said that the comopressor should be huffyuv but mine wont let me change from DV NTSC.

As for how I export I leave everything default.

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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:20 pm

Kariudo meant export settings. You also have to put losslessly encoded clips into premiere... that's not an option in the settings, that's something you do outside of Premiere when you prep your footage.
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Postby Toshiyan » Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:36 pm

Oh, so is that during the process of either ripping it from the DVD or converting it into another format?

Which then have premiere just detect what it was encoded with in the export settings as what ever you converted it to be?
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