Need help making effects

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Need help making effects

Postby Orzmella » Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:39 pm

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I have adobe premiere and after effects but my skills are limited to encoding and simple editing at the moment . So any tips would be appreciated on how could i make x videos running aside of my main with some effect to hide its boarders . If some one knows any guides were I could learn such things it would be great.
Any tips appreciated.
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Postby Minion » Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:45 pm

the masking tools in AE can do this pretty easily.
just drag the rectangle over the area to mask it. same for circle.

i'd be more specific, but i'm on my way out the door.
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Postby Orzmella » Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:50 pm

;o Nows that was fast . Thanks Minion , appreciated .
Trying to improve from windows movie maker , since the world moves on >.<
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Postby Gepetto » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:55 pm

Orzmella wrote:;o Nows that was fast . Thanks Minion , appreciated .
Trying to improve from windows movie maker , since the world moves on >.<


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Postby Scintilla » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:20 pm

If you're using Premiere Pro, Video 2 and Video 3 can be accomplished easily with the Garbage Matte video effect (it's in the Keying folder).
If you're using Premiere 6.5 or older, you can go to the Transparency window for each clip and drag the little handles in the picture-in-picture box to get the same effect.

Video 4 is a little trickier. You'd have to create an image of a white circle on a black background, put that in one of the unused video tracks (have it at the same time as the Video 4 clip) and disable the clip, then:
- If using Premiere Pro, apply the Track Matte effect (also in Keying folder) and set the track to whatever track you put the circle clip in
- If using Premiere 6.5 or older, set its Transparency mode to Track Matte or whatever the hell it is, and set the track to whatever track you put the circle clip in (I don't remember whether black and white images work with Premiere 6.5 and older, or if you have to use an image with an alpha channel)
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Postby Douggie » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:27 pm

For video 2 & 3 it's probably the easiest way to just use crop (in my opinion) - garbage matte lets you move points, instead of sides, so it might be that you accidently have a side a bit crooked/slant (yeah, I used Babelfish to find these words, but you know what I mean).

As for the circle, Scintilla's way works quite well, but I just want to add that you can use the title maker (in project files just right click and choose new title - or whatever it's called): you can create a white circle quite quickly there and have it in your project right away, so you don't have to do that in Paint or Photoshop or something like that.
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Postby Epical Zamora » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:17 pm

Scintilla wrote:If you're using Premiere Pro, Video 2 and Video 3 can be accomplished easily with the Garbage Matte video effect (it's in the Keying folder).
If you're using Premiere 6.5 or older, you can go to the Transparency window for each clip and drag the little handles in the picture-in-picture box to get the same effect.

Video 4 is a little trickier. You'd have to create an image of a white circle on a black background, put that in one of the unused video tracks (have it at the same time as the Video 4 clip) and disable the clip, then:
- If using Premiere Pro, apply the Track Matte effect (also in Keying folder) and set the track to whatever track you put the circle clip in
- If using Premiere 6.5 or older, set its Transparency mode to Track Matte or whatever the hell it is, and set the track to whatever track you put the circle clip in (I don't remember whether black and white images work with Premiere 6.5 and older, or if you have to use an image with an alpha channel)


I have a similar idea to what he's doing. I'm having a problem though.

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I do this and nothing happens. I can get track mattes to work just fine in 6.5, but in Pro it just aint working...
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Postby Scintilla » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:23 pm

Douggie wrote:For video 2 & 3 it's probably the easiest way to just use crop (in my opinion) - garbage matte lets you move points, instead of sides, so it might be that you accidently have a side a bit crooked/slant (yeah, I used Babelfish to find these words, but you know what I mean).

Problem with Crop is that it doesn't allow the area around what's left of the video to be transparent: instead, it fills it with a color you specify. At least, in Premiere 5.1 and Premiere Pro.
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Postby Scintilla » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:26 pm

Epical Zamora wrote:I have a similar idea to what he's doing. I'm having a problem though.

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I do this and nothing happens. I can get track mattes to work just fine in 6.5, but in Pro it just aint working...

From looking at your screenshot, I think the problem is that your "Composite Using" setting is set to "Matte Alpha". You want "Matte Luma" if your matte uses shades of grey to correspond to different levels of opacity.

The Help file wrote:Select Matte Alpha to composite using the values in the alpha channel of the track matte. Select Matte Luma to composite using the image's luminance values instead.
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Postby Gepetto » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:34 pm

Zamora, there's a size limit for signatures. Your Chuck Norris image is too big.
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Postby Douggie » Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:06 pm

Scintilla wrote:
Douggie wrote:For video 2 & 3 it's probably the easiest way to just use crop (in my opinion) - garbage matte lets you move points, instead of sides, so it might be that you accidently have a side a bit crooked/slant (yeah, I used Babelfish to find these words, but you know what I mean).

Problem with Crop is that it doesn't allow the area around what's left of the video to be transparent: instead, it fills it with a color you specify. At least, in Premiere 5.1 and Premiere Pro.


I have no idea what version of Premiere Pro you're using, but the AMVs in my signature are done with Pro 1.5 and Pro 2.0 and as you can see, the crop really "cuts off" the sides and doesn't "fills it up" with a color.

@Epical Zamora, you also might look into turning the track with the greyscale matte off AKA making it not visible by clicking on the "eye"-icon or else you will see the matte.
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Postby Scintilla » Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:51 pm

Douggie wrote:
Scintilla wrote:
Douggie wrote:For video 2 & 3 it's probably the easiest way to just use crop (in my opinion) - garbage matte lets you move points, instead of sides, so it might be that you accidently have a side a bit crooked/slant (yeah, I used Babelfish to find these words, but you know what I mean).

Problem with Crop is that it doesn't allow the area around what's left of the video to be transparent: instead, it fills it with a color you specify. At least, in Premiere 5.1 and Premiere Pro.

I have no idea what version of Premiere Pro you're using, but the AMVs in my signature are done with Pro 1.5 and Pro 2.0 and as you can see, the crop really "cuts off" the sides and doesn't "fills it up" with a color.

The only one there was in 2003, that's what version. :P Yeah, that's probably why. I never understood why they wouldn't give us the option to skip the fill on earlier versions. Okay, objection withdrawn.
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Postby Orzmella » Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:44 am

Thanks everyone for tips .
I'm using premiere pro and big thanks Scintilla for pointing out the matte effect , its really hard for me to work with English software when English is my third language >.< It did very well what I had planned =}
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