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Adobe Premiere 6.5 Exporting

Postby VEGETA_LSSJ » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:30 pm

Ok people, i BEG you just to give me instruction on - HOW THE HELL I CAN EXPORT THE F%CKIN VIDEO OUT THE ADOBE PREMIERE 6.5 AND NOT TO LOSE ON QUALITY AND ON FRAMES?????!?!?!?!!!? Understand - lossless export...???

So please i would be unimaginable grateful to to anyone who can help me. Please people i rarely look for help but now i really need it, if i dont want to go crazy. I tryied almost all combinations with DV AV and big number of Codecs but it did not work, i am starting to bite my fingers and to hit the wall with my head as hard as i can, so PLEASE! help me befoure i go absolutely crazy! anyhow? anyway?

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Postby Kariudo » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:34 pm

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Postby VEGETA_LSSJ » Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:13 pm

Thank you very much Kariudo, you are very kind, but it seems it still does not work. Ok i'll be more accurant - When i export my AMV in Adobe Premiere 6.5 whit that codec and settings from that link you gave me - all frames are ok and they goes smoothly, and i am quite satisfied with that, but some scenes are somehow square-ized, and yet some other scenes are perfectly good. But i convert my scenes with the VirtualDub and i use Lagarith Lossless codecs, and it really dont lose on quality untill i export them, and then some scenes are like i said "squarized" (i mean it looks like the resolution is decreased) and i make sure everytime i chechked "No Fields" so that is NOT the problem, cuz here i see whole image but it seems like resolution decreased or somehow twisted shape...

And when i export with same codec and same settings in Adobe Premiere Pro, than i have problem with picture quality AND with the frames! Picture is little bit more smoothy(i mean like you look at video throught-water, but not so bad) than original source videos(whit which i am also not satisfied), AND frames seems to have an echo! Every frame stays a little bit longer than it should stay and it fade, so it actually look like echo.
And also when i export AMV in APP it exports something way different than i made, for example, somewhere where it should be "fade-away and rotation" it is "different angle rotation and without fade..." or something like that...But i guess the problem is because i make my AMV in AP 6.5 only, so it is probably problem in switching from AP 6.5 to APP.

And i mentioned one thing, it seems that almost all those scenes in AMV i edited with VirtualDub and Lagarith Lossless Codec are those "squarized" and that is not coincidence.

Any ideas?

Thank you and Sorry for my terrible english.
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Postby Kariudo » Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:34 pm

I think you're talking about macroblocking...but a screenshot of what you are seeing would help.

it would also help if you could list your project settings and export settings.

premiere pro is notorious for exporting. A lot of times if you export from APP using huffyuv or lagarith you'll get colorful distortions near the edge of your video.

I can't say much more without seeing some examples, but there are a few things that can mess up your video.
make sure that "deinterlace when speed is below 100%" is unchecked
make sure that "optimize stills" is unchecked
don't let premiere do any resizing of your video, something is bound to go wrong
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Postby VEGETA_LSSJ » Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:56 am

Thank you for your patience.
Ok now i'll try to give you more infos:

this Screenshot is when i export from APP witth all settings set like in that instructions:
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This is from AP 6.5 also with the same settings:
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And this from original source scene:
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It seems like there is no difference in Source video and AP 6.5 but there IS a little that getting on my nereves and that is that "squaring" - pay attention on VEGETA's left leg, you see in source video is perfectly ok, but in AP 6.5 is different. Could that be because of resolution?

But in APP every scene is like that, but in AP 6.5 some scenes are more "squarized"(damn you english!) like this:
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Oh! and i forgot to mention that when i export like you told me, it blocks it does not go soothly, it jump over some frames and scenes, and when i play again it jump over some other frames. And yet when i export in DV AV it goes perfectly but than it looks almost the same like - Image
Could problem be because of mine FAT32 harddisk???

Mabybe my project settings are not good??? If they're not, is there any way i can still do something??? can i somehow change it and not to do my AMV from beggining again??? or i should go kill myself.

And can you tell me where i cen uncheck that "deinterlace when speed is below 100%" and that "optimize stills"?

Is there any way i can export my AMV and not to lose on Qualty, frames, and it would be great if resolution could be like source Videos, or in other words - to be parallel to my monitor like 640x480 or 576x432...? But i guess i can fix resolution easy, i need to keep quality...

Again thank and sorry about my english...
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Postby Krisqo » Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:54 pm

I see a lot of problems in your settings. First, your project it set for PAL at 0.9PAR and a resolution of 720x576 as well as a frame rate of 25FPS

When you export, you are using 1.0PAR, resolution of 720x480 and a frame rate of 30FPS.

But the biggest thing i see is that you have the project set for interlaced video with the lower field first but are exporting with a setting of No Fields meaning de-interlaced footage. I think that can screw up your video.
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Postby VEGETA_LSSJ » Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:36 pm

Thank you very much both Krisqo and Kariudo. I think i finally did it! Actually everything you two told me helped me a lot, but i solved in my way.
But i got a new problem, why some videos i export from APP are in they original resolution like this:
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And yet some are normal.

And how can i solve this? If i solve this problem i'll probably no longer have problems, so please if you somehow know how i can export normally(fullscreen)

Thank you and sorry for bothering...
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Postby VEGETA_LSSJ » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:09 pm

I forgot to say that that screenshot is just from one exported video, and that video is WHOLE like that, and yet when i export some other video with the same export-settings it is WHOLE normal, so this is separately...
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Postby Krisqo » Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:36 pm

Is that source clip the same resolution as your project? I never had this problem but I saw one other program add black borders around a clip that had a smaller aspect ratio than what was defined in project settings.
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Postby VEGETA_LSSJ » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:38 pm

no it is not the same resolution as the project, but the other clips also have resolution as that clip and yet some of them are exported OK.

I think that definitely something is about randomized APP work, cuz i tried to export that same clip in the same settings about 12 times. And first two times and the 9nth of 12, it exported normally(fullscreen). But i am such unlucky creep! now i tried about 30 times and never exported normally...

Maybe if you know some good APP or/and AP 6.5 tutorials, for export or something like the one that Kariudo gave me, would be great...

Anyway thank you very much for your help. I'll trying...
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:45 pm

Create a new project with the CORRECT aspect ratios and see what happens. From what you're describing, it's doing what it's supposed to do most of the time and the times it got it "correct" in your opinion are, in fact, the times it got it wrong.
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:46 pm

NINJA EDIT: That should be "correct aspect ratio and correct frame size."
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Postby VEGETA_LSSJ » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:35 pm

@BasharOfTheAges, Thnak you. By "Correct" you mean - "When you export, you are using 1.0PAR, resolution of 720x480 and a frame rate of 30FPS." that Krisqo told me?

Create a new project with the CORRECT aspect ratios and see what happens

Man! that was good one! I cant believe i forgat to try that! i tried almost all and i forgot that totally...Thank you very much.
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Postby VEGETA_LSSJ » Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:39 am

I'm really sorry, just two more questions about export and project settings please:
When i set in project settings - 25 frame rate, and when i export in 25 frame rate, noramlly it will be ok. But! if i set 25 on project settings and export in 30 will there be any difference from when i set project settings to 30 and export in 30(except the fact that audio frame rate will be increased and then will be some "double-tones/voices" which i can solve, and that is not problem) and will i lose some frames???

So if - 25 project to 25 export is lossles,
and - 30 project to 30 export is lossless,
and - 30 project to 25 export is lossless,]
than is it lossless from 25 project to 30 export ???

I mean does your timeline have the same number of frame-spots always, or it depedns on what you set on project settings??

And second question:
Can i SOMEHOW transport my project to another project settings? Is there any way i can keep my work and not to throw all my efforts, and to switch project settings??? Maybe somehow copy-paste??? or maybe by combining AP 6.5 and APP and After Effects?? any, any, any way??? please!

Imprtant note: I am makeing that project in AP 6.5

I hope you understood me, and please if you know anything of this please let me know!
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Postby VEGETA_LSSJ » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:02 am

EDIT:
and will i lose some frames???

omg sorry mistake, this shoud be like this - "and will there be some double frames?"

anyway this first question is a little messed up, so focus on this sentance -
I mean does the timeline have the same number of frame-spots always, or it depedns on what you set on project settings??

frame spots or how i should call it...maybe...frame slots...i hope you know what i mean...

i have some image sequences in my project so that is the biggest problem for me. I exported some sequences jsut to see if ther is any difference and i exported from "25 to 30", from "25 to 25", and from "30 to 30" and to me it seems like there is no difference from any of these 3 exports, but i want to make sure...

Anyway the second question is more imprtant...
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