What do I with these .vob files?

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What do I with these .vob files?

Postby Osakaisthebomb » Mon May 11, 2009 12:44 am

Okay this sites guide is the most confusing crap I have ever seen. So the forums are my nest attempt to answer this question.

"after using DVD decrypter, what do I do with the .VOB files next?
I can view them on some players but I notice some fuzziness in white spots so I'm assuming a filter processes is next, or something.
and I don't have avmapp installed simply because I don't want extra crap I don't need yet.
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Re: What do I with these .vob files?

Postby The Origonal Head Hunter » Mon May 11, 2009 1:08 am

Wrong place. This would go in the compression or ripping forum.

Get AMVApp, there will be something called DGIndex in the programs. Import the .vobs into that and then go to fil->save project and save it somewhere. This creates a proxy file through which Avisynth can easily be used to access all the selected .vobs as one file.
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MPEG2Source("file path to the .d2v file")
would be the main line you need for the .d2v file.

Do what you will with the avisynth file.
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Re: What do I with these .vob files?

Postby Corran » Mon May 11, 2009 10:32 am

Osakaisthebomb wrote:and I don't have avmapp installed simply because I don't want extra crap I don't need yet.


You can *choose* which programs in the app are installed. However, the amvapp is custom built by the guide maintainer and the guide relies heavily on the programs it contains...
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Re: What do I with these .vob files?

Postby Osakaisthebomb » Mon May 11, 2009 4:22 pm

that helped....so far

Next questions
1). My editor (Magix) will not import a avisynth file. I remember someone saying I would use Virtual Dub mod to get it into a file that an editor can read just not the steps. Is that the next step or is there a way to get an editor to read a avisynth file and I don't know about it?
2). I'm having trouble finding the page with codes I can add to the avisynth file to fix the clarity issues (which now seems to be lines appear "broken" and some "fuzziness" on images of white substances). Could someone give me a link to that page?
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Re: What do I with these .vob files?

Postby Kariudo » Mon May 11, 2009 5:02 pm

1) though there are other ways (makeAVIs, VFAPI) I feel that using vdub/mod is the most straightforward way.

2) http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... etb3a.html (removing interlacing)
other avisynth stuff is covered towards the end of the guide
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Re: What do I with these .vob files?

Postby Osakaisthebomb » Tue May 12, 2009 11:53 pm

Got the video back to progressive thanks to that link but I'm still needing that other page. I swear there used to be a page with every possible code you could put in that avi synth file and what each one was for. Right now some clips are very fuzzy while other seems to not have that problem. (the video in whole is animatrix and clips like beyond are okay but "Last Flight..." is just fuzzy as heck)
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Re: What do I with these .vob files?

Postby Kariudo » Wed May 13, 2009 12:07 am

it would help if you could get some screenshots

the other big avisynth page

a word of caution before proceeding. It may not be wise to simply copy/paste the things you see in the guide. Most avisynth plugins have documentation (..program files/avisynth2.5/plugins) that tell you what the plugin is for, and the various options you can give it (along with what said options do)
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Re: What do I with these .vob files?

Postby LoLoka » Wed May 13, 2009 12:55 pm

what u can do next is open the vob in VirtualDubMod, then there u can deinterlace and crop in case u need..along with a lot more of filters that u can use if u need
then u can compress it a lil bit so that it uses less space in ur disk..but do not compress it much cuz otherwise the quality will decrease and ur vids will look nasty with overfilteres footage..
hope it helps ^^
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Re: What do I with these .vob files?

Postby Corran » Wed May 13, 2009 5:52 pm

LoLoka wrote:what u can do next is open the vob in VirtualDubMod, then there u can deinterlace and crop in case u need..along with a lot more of filters that u can use if u need
then u can compress it a lil bit so that it uses less space in ur disk..but do not compress it much cuz otherwise the quality will decrease and ur vids will look nasty with overfilteres footage..
hope it helps ^^

I do not recommend that advice.

While virtualdubmod can open vobs directly it is much better to use avisynth to deinterlace, crop, and pre-process the files. You can then open the avisynth scripts in virtualdubmod.

I also don't recommend compressing an intermediate file with lossy codecs. I say this not just because the quality is diminished, but also because most lossy codecs do not have keyframes for every frame. This can result in frame-inaccurate seeking which in turn will cause your videos sync to be slightly off in places or result in orphaned frames. Use lagarith or huffYUV if you have the space available to do so. Only use lossy codecs on your distribution versions.
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Re: What do I with these .vob files?

Postby LittleAtari » Wed May 13, 2009 9:21 pm

Zarx's video guides are very simple to follow for this because you can watch the guide and do whatever you need to side by side with it:
http://dz-studios.com/Resources/Zarx%20Tutorials.rar

The only thing that he doesnt go over is making Fake AVIs. In the new AMVapp, you can toss your script into vfapi and so long as you keep the VOBs and index files, you dont have to convert to lossless. Also for widescreen footage, you resize to 848x480.

I dont mean to be like: "Here follow this guide," but I just find the video guides to be very simple and easy.
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Re: What do I with these .vob files?

Postby Osakaisthebomb » Fri May 15, 2009 7:19 pm

OKAY

I will probably have a lot more question based on the last few post in this thread but I got one more important that those.

At 3:30 today I started virtualdub with the avi file and started saving it as an avi. 3 and a half hours later is said it was only 18% done. WHY? I mean this is only a about a hour and 29 minute video I'm using (animatrix) so i should take longer then that right? What am I doing wrong.
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Re: What do I with these .vob files?

Postby Osakaisthebomb » Fri May 15, 2009 7:19 pm

please excuses the horrible typos in that post.
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Re: What do I with these .vob files?

Postby Kariudo » Fri May 15, 2009 8:59 pm

Osakaisthebomb wrote:What am I doing wrong.

You're transcoding the entire movie, that's what's wrong.

Ok, but seriously now, the slow encoding speed is most likely a result of your avisynth script.
Some filters (I'm looking at you~ vmtoon) slow the process down to a snail's pace (~4fps, this of course depends on how good your computer is)

Related to my semi-sarcastic first remark, you'll be better off just encoding the clips that you want to use rather than the entire movie (it will save space as well, since a 1.5 hour huffyuv will probably end up at around 12-15 GB)

JaddziaDax wrote:open the video file in virtualdub mod go to video->compression->Huffyuv
then go to file->save

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use those buttons to mark the beginning and the end of the "clips" you want to use so you can save file space.

also go to streams->streams list->disable stream to disable the audio and save even more file space.
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Re: What do I with these .vob files?

Postby Qyot27 » Sat May 16, 2009 12:04 am

Semi-related to clip-making, it is wise to have two scripts at the ready: an LQ script, and an HQ script. The LQ script would omit things that were meant to make everything look nice, diminish noise, or slow down the script unnecessarily, and would do well to be at a lower resolution (I do mine at 320x240 or 432x240, but that's because my computer is almost a relic; feel free to use a higher res if your comp can handle it smoothly) - you can use this script to encode the full movie with MJPEG, preferably through ffdshow's VFW since that's free and produces acceptable quality.

You want to make sure the script keeps any functions that affect frame ordering or the total number of frames, but you could excise the options that are meant for higher precision. In essence, the LQ script will do a dumb inverse telecine rather than a super-tweaked one; most differences are usually not more than 1 or 2 frames and can be corrected when you open up the HQ script.

You then take this LQ MJPEG encode and track through it with VDub (you can use Alt+Arrow keys to move 50 frames at a time), making a note of your clips' starting and ending frame numbers in Notepad.

Next, you would open up your HQ script, and then use your notes to hop to the right frames of the video (easiest way to bring this up is Ctrl+G). If the frames are not quite the right ones, you can adjust the start and end frames accordingly.
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Re: What do I with these .vob files?

Postby Osakaisthebomb » Sat May 16, 2009 9:37 am

Um....first I would have to now what the heck a LQ script and a HQ script was, or how to get those, to understand any of what you are talking about, Qyot27
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