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kinds of formats, any tutorial here?

Postby P4n4cea » Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:53 pm

Is there any tutorial here or any post about the differences between the differents formats or codecs??

If you know anything about it, let me know please

Thanx in advance
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Re: kinds of formats, any tutorial here?

Postby post-it » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:05 pm

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the Formats are all basically the same; "Video"

What we try to let people know is, "what Codec NOT to use and why!"

Loss-less works best for Editing. Xvid/MKv for subbing. MP4 for everything else 8-)

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the Audio is a little bit trickier, "ac_3" "ac_6" "MP3" "m4a"

Don't get too worked-up over who-does-what-where-and-when :nono:
when it comes time to Encode the final product just let us know and we'll walk
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Re: kinds of formats, any tutorial here?

Postby JaddziaDax » Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:26 pm

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Re: kinds of formats, any tutorial here?

Postby P4n4cea » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:21 am

Thanx, I´ll give a watch, maybe then I could understand why .wmv isn´t good xD
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Re: kinds of formats, any tutorial here?

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:02 pm

P4n4cea wrote:Thanx, I´ll give a watch, maybe then I could understand why .wmv isn´t good xD

Why it isn't good to edit with or distribute with?
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Re: kinds of formats, any tutorial here?

Postby Qyot27 » Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:29 am

I'm assuming distribute.

The main reason being that it suffers from a minor RealMedia effect - RealMedia gained a bad reputation for an invasive, locked-in player for their format that in many cases also ate RAM for breakfast and had other container-based problems, in addition to the standard quality presets resulting in really nasty-looking artifacts. This changed later on, for the most part, but the reputation stuck. Similarly, the presets for WMV in Windows Movie Maker generally err either on the lax side or the too restrictive side (meaning, filesizes way too big or quality really bad), a history of RAM problems, restrictive player options, and maybe even a general perception about the professionalism of an editor that distributes in that format because of all the newbies that make the mistake of not configuring it the right way. It has a stigma attached to it.

Now, that isn't to say the format is crap - heck, VC1 (which is WMV9's Advanced Profile) is a standard on Blu-ray discs. But VC1 also has no standard container either, according to the spec. Putting a VC1 stream in MKV is just as 'standard' in a technical sense as putting it in ASF or MPEG-2 TS. The difference is just a matter of which one you'd normally find it in. The encoder implementations for VC1 aren't nearly as fast as x264 is for similar quality, so practically no one distributes in it online - it's just more time-economical to use H.264. Not to mention that H.264 MP4 files don't have player stigma attached to them in most cases. It's true that ffmpeg-based players can handle WMV9, but it doesn't change the fact that most people still associate the format with Windows Media Player.
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Re: kinds of formats, any tutorial here?

Postby jt_x » Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:36 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:Read <a href="http://www.a-m-v.org/guides/avtech/">ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides</a>

and here is the newest version of that same guide, beware its a beta: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtechbeta/
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Re: kinds of formats, any tutorial here?

Postby post-it » Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:40 pm

HarimaKenji wrote:
JaddziaDax wrote:Read <a href="http://www.a-m-v.org/guides/avtech/">ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides</a>

and here is the newest version of that same guide, beware its a beta: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtechbeta/
:down: bad reference; no description of Formats! :down:
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Re: kinds of formats, any tutorial here?

Postby LivingFlame » Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:31 pm

post-it wrote:
HarimaKenji wrote:
JaddziaDax wrote:Read <a href="http://www.a-m-v.org/guides/avtech/">ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides</a>

and here is the newest version of that same guide, beware its a beta: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtechbeta/
:down: bad reference; no description of Formats! :down:

Sure it has descriptions of formats. It's right here.
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Re: kinds of formats, any tutorial here?

Postby post-it » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:50 pm

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Re: kinds of formats, any tutorial here?

Postby P4n4cea » Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:30 pm

thanx for all the explanations and links :up:
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