Question about Size vs. quality

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Question about Size vs. quality

Postby Takatofan1986 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:54 am

I am new, well i joined a year and a half ago but im just now active. Last night Youtube deleted my account for AMV's, so i come here. I have always encoded my AMVs in high/decent quality, but this is what im wondering:

On this site, are most of you looking for quality or the size? Like for example, i have several 5 min amvs, and there MPG's, would you really want to dwl a 50 mb vid? Or should i reduce the quality in WMV format?

Please help
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Postby Takatofan1986 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:30 am

boochsack?? I dident type that! I typed.. well.. maybe you dont want me to type it? U2be?
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Postby JaddziaDax » Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:48 am

this site isn't fond of youboob so theres a word filter on it, and they have disabled people posting the links in the forum... the thing is we get a lot of people from there that disrespect this site by only linking to their you<b></b>tube videos and they sometimes even refuse to list them here. the sole purpose of animemusicvideos.org is to list every amv ever made, so it's kinda disrespectful to come her to advertise your videos and NOT list them eh?

as for your original question:
most people here are looking for quality and probably won't complain about the file size unless its massive or over 100mb (which you can't upload anyways without permission) also, a lot of people here don't like the .wmv container, so I would probably stay away from that...

what program are you using to edit your videos? and do you still have the project files or a full quality export? so you can make a full quality export? (as mpg tends to be lower quality than say a lossless copy - though if thats all you have to work with I suppose its fine?)

xvid encoded avi or h.264 encoded mp4 are the standard here, (or at least thats what i see most of top editors here useing- one or the other or both)

this is a link to the new guides I hope it helps

one more specific to h.264/mp4

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one on how to compress to xvid which should be used with the one for compressing your audio

I'm sure you can easily take those mpg exports and use those methods to convert to the other containers/compressions. Also if you get handy with the avisynth you could even clean up the quality that was lost a little bit.
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Postby The Origonal Head Hunter » Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:50 am

boochsack is a word filter, but that isn't the point of this. I think I can speak for most of the people here when they say they want both a smaller file size with good quality, which 50mb would be acceptable to most.

Personally I'll take quality over size any day.
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Postby Bauzi » Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:51 am

boochsack = word filler for You-tube
Please read

I preffer high quality (I mean close to perfect) and low filesize. That´s why I fancy mp4.

I can only give you this guides as advice:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtechbeta/
If you follow it you can less than 1000kbps for perfect quality at DVD ressolution.

Or should i reduce the quality in WMV format?

You should work with the guides and there won´t be such a question left ;)
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Postby Takatofan1986 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:54 am

Thank you, i will try to figure out the AVI thing (Thats one thing ive ALWAYS wanted to know how to do but never been able to figure out without it being a million MBs.) if not i'll stick with Mpg. and sorry for mentioning "The site that must not be named." hope i dident offend anyone
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Postby JaddziaDax » Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:54 am

if anything the mpegs should be fine for now as long as they are under 100mbs
and on future videos they can work on better compressions...
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Postby JaddziaDax » Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:57 am

avi is a lot easier than it seems...

export from your program as lossless as you can, (which will be a big file) open that file in Virtualdub Mod, go to video then to compression and choose XVID do two passes (if the first one is over 100mbs) and decide if you like the quality or not, if not recompress it till you like it.

just be sure to compress your audio as well and it will really help to keep the file size down
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Postby Takatofan1986 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:59 am

Okay, i will try that! Thank you
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Postby Bauzi » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:25 pm

Forget XviD. mp4 with x264 as codec is much more easier than XviD compression in VirtualDubMod.
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Postby Qyot27 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:53 pm

Bauzi wrote:Forget XviD. mp4 with x264 as codec is much more easier than XviD compression in VirtualDubMod.

That solely depends on what app you're using to encode it. XviD's VFW is much simpler to get the hang of compared to MeGUI+x264. Not to mention that even with the gains x264 has made in speed over the past 150-so revisions, it still takes longer (a fact only exacerbated for those using an ancient-by-modern-standards computer like mine). That said, my main distro encodes have completely switched to H.264.
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Postby Zero1 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:59 pm

I think when using Zarx's GUIm you can basically take your brain out and get great quality. IMO, Zarx's GUI is a lot easier than VDub, providing you have the relevant stuff installed
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Postby Bauzi » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:18 pm

Bauzi wrote:Forget XviD. mp4 with x264 as codec is much more easier than XviD compression in VirtualDubMod.

Yeah sry. Of course I meant zarxGUI. It´s so god damn easy and yeah the default settings already are something that is just alright. XviD, you have to read threw a whole guide before you set up things. Than you just made the 1st pass and afterwards you do the real 2nd pass (if you go the first time threw the guide). HAHA! =/
In zarxGUI, everything is set up for amvs (guess) and the defaults are pretty good and usefull.

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Postby JaddziaDax » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:31 pm

how about you guys just let them look at the links and learn what they want to learn rather than trying to push a compression on them...
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Postby Zarxrax » Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:47 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:how about you guys just let them look at the links and learn what they want to learn rather than trying to push a compression on them...


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