Lagarith v.s. Huffyuv When Exporting?

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Lagarith v.s. Huffyuv When Exporting?

Postby Kero777 » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:24 pm

For the last few videos of mine I've used Lagarith to export from Vegas and went from there with my conversions in VirtualDubMod, etc., but I was re-reading A&E's Technical Guides and this is what it says:

Guide wrote:Video Format: This is the important part. There are only 2 things you could ever want to choose here - HuffYUV (included in the AMVapp) or Uncompressed (unless you are using the native options of a hardware card).


I actually prefer Lagarith to Huffyuv. The file sizes are smaller and the quality seems to be the same... or so I thought. Huffyuv gives me problems in Avisynth when I have any type of audio attached. I guess this can happen to:

Guide wrote: Occasionally I get errors with my HuffYUV files which result in what I call 'dirty frames'. This could be just my system but whenever this happens I resort to using uncompressed RGB. It's big as hell but it works.


Is Lagarith a bad decision when exporting from a video editing program? Does anybody else use Lagarith for exporting? Thanks. :D
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Postby Bauzi » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:29 pm

oO

What the... Now I´m REALLY interrested. Did you just forgot to mention Lagarith in the guides?

I can only say that Lagarith is a bigger bitch than Uncompressed when you export from Premiere Pro, because Lag needs more hardware and damn you need every little bit to export stable with this prog.
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Postby Zarxrax » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:37 pm

In premiere pro I recommend only exporting uncompressed. Premiere pro definitely has problems exporting to lagarith, and huffyuv usually causes problems. In other software lagarith should be just fine.
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Postby JaddziaDax » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:57 pm

i use lagarith when exporting from vegas, it hasnt given me any problems
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Postby post-it » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:44 pm

.. I've been using both lagarith and CorePNG with Magix Pro 12; must be an Adobe thing!
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Postby lister007 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:12 am

I think the same as Kero777, Lagarith is much preferred in my books and always has been. It seems to always work first time with no problems. Recently I have tried importing Lagarith files into premiere and it is crashing all the time, don't know why. Also I mostly export using a frame server to virtualdubmod and then use lagarith.
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Postby ffxdean » Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:17 am

I've been using both lagarith and CorePNG with Magix Pro 12; must be an Adobe thing!


I agree. Its just like Ulead and TMPGEnc. When you export a video with TMPGEnc using the huffman codec it encodes fine but if you use the Lagarith codec some high motion frames turn out to be a pixel mess.

Ulead Video Studio 11 Plus is even worse for example even if your video plays fine in WMP (using huffy or lag)when it comes to editing that footage with UVS11P the video will turn out to be a pixel mess when scrolling through the footage.
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Postby Rapture** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:17 am

I've used to export final versions in Huffy with my vegas, until I noticed that sometimes it gives away few bugged frames :?

Kero777 wrote:The file sizes are smaller and the quality seems to be the same...


Agreed. Besides - for some reason my PC prefers Lag files when it comes to AviSynth..

The only advantage of Huffy - has a better playback than Lagarith (at least at my PC),though it's up to filesize and frame count.
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Postby Kevmaster » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:20 am

I always render my Video was uncompressed. I don't see any Reason why I should do it in huffy or lagarith when I compress it right after that and then delete the file. *Shrugs* I usually edit with huffy, because I noticed that sometimes when I use Lagarith, vegas renders the video as black screenwhen I save it on a higher quality than preview O.o For MEP Tracks I gotta send to other I prefer lagarith because of the lower file size :/ (me has sucky connection)
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Postby JaddziaDax » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:31 am

I keep tons of files on my computer and sometimes dont have space, and some people like to keep the original export as their "master copy"
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Postby Qyot27 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:46 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:I keep tons of files on my computer and sometimes dont have space, and some people like to keep the original export as their "master copy"

I keep a master copy, but back it up on DVD. Even still, I export in Huffyuv's RGB-mode, and then proceed to use ConvertToYV12 and store it in Lagarith.
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Postby JaddziaDax » Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:17 pm

yea mine is usually cropped and cleaned up lagarith i save to a dvd too O.o
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