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Starting From Scratch - Codecs and Programs (Vista)

Postby nmaster64 » Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:44 pm

Hey guys. I wanted to get some opinions on this. I'm about to wipe my computer clean and install Windows Vista, so I'm gonna have to reinstall all my codecs and AMVApp and Adobe Premiere, etc, etc. Now codecs can be kinda finicky, especially if you use any kinds of packs, and you gotta be careful about what you install and in what order sometimes. I used a XP-only codec pack for my current setup, and that worked great, but this time I'm thinking of avoiding packs and installing things one at a time...safer that way...

So I was just wondering what people would recommend installing as an anime junkie and AMV creator when your starting out from scratch. I for the most part know what I'm doing, but I always like to get second opinions to be safe. Any help/ideas/suggestions are appreciated.
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Postby Kariudo » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:03 pm

suggestion 1: seriously reconsider installing vista (unless you absolutely must have Vista I'd suggest staying with XP at least until vista sp1 comes out)
now in the way of codecs:
huffyuv
lagarith
picvideo mjpeg
CCCP (a codec pack, but it's put together by people who actually have a clue about what they're doing...unlike others like k-lite which give you a whole bunch of junk like divx 3, 3ivx, divx 4, etc)

that should pretty much do it, CCCP includes ffdshow. FFDshow can potentially cause problems...but nothing that can't be fixed easily
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Postby nmaster64 » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:10 pm

For the record, Vista's more stable than people give it credit for. There won't be a service pack for a long time, unless MS does it just to satisfy people like you...but really the only problem with it is the hardware requirements. I would never recommend it to anyone in terms of buying it, but I got it for free (legally, MS happens to like me), and yeah I need it...


I had forgotten about CCCP, that actually does sound like the best choice probably moving to Vista...then definitely Huffy and Lagarith...

Picvideo mjpeg? That seems kinda random to me...lol...
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Postby Kariudo » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:14 pm

just opinion based on what i've heard/read

anyway...picvideo mjpeg is very fast (which makes it good for rendering previews in your editing program)
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Postby nmaster64 » Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:16 am

I haven't messed with it, but sounds good, I might give it a try, thanks...
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:01 am

Vista's great.

Half a gig or RAM to simply idle.
More than a dozen exploits discovered on the day it launched.
Built-in DRM tools.

The reasons to buy are astounding.
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Postby nmaster64 » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:04 am

nmaster64 wrote:...I got it for free (legally, MS happens to like me), and yeah I need it...

Suck. My. Halo 2.
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:06 am

fine
BasharOfTheAges wrote:The reasons to use are astounding.
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Postby nmaster64 » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:09 am

Indeed they are...

*Halo 2
*Halo 2
*lol, it looks pretty
*Halo 2
*roflcopter
*Halo 2
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:16 am

Not seeing any compelling reasons there... =/
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Postby Jnzk » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:40 am

Eh, if the guy wants to install Vista, let him. :roll: I like it myself.
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Postby Athena » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:01 am

I installed Vista. It's pretty to look at.

It is next to worthless to edit with.

I'll keep it loaded on a drive, but until a service pack comes out, screw vista. If it can't even run Premiere 6.0, what use could it possibly be?
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Postby nmaster64 » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:56 am

Kionon wrote:...what use could it possibly be?

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Postby Qyot27 » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:53 am

PICVideo MJPEG isn't necessary, really. Just install the full version of ffdshow (http://x264.nl/) - it comes with both an MJPEG codec and Huffyuv-YV12, which can be accessed from the VFW interface. I know from experience it works fine on Vista because I installed it for my cousin on his laptop. You'll also want to pick up Haali's Media Splitter while you're at it - just leave the options as-is when you install it; the AVI splitter isn't necessary, Windows can do that on its own.

Other than that, regular Huffyuv and Lagarith would be good to pick up also.
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Postby Tab. » Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:29 pm

Vista is necessary for some. For instance, I'm happily accustomed to Mac OS X, and since Vista is basically Microsoft OS X, I appreciate its extra features over XP. That said, a lot of encoding stuff doesn't work or doesn't work well yet on Vista, so good luck.
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