Need to compress, I guess......

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Need to compress, I guess......

Postby Banass » Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:15 pm

Well, I'm using Vegas, and my vid is about 10 sec long, but has 810 mo!

I'm using my deinterlaced ripped file, but I guess I have to compress them.


Can someone tell me how do I compress my .avs file?

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Postby CrackTheSky » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:06 am

Ok, you're going to have to elaborate a lot more here. And what do you mean by 810 "mo"? I assume that's a typo and you mean MB, in which case I assume you mean that when you export your video from Vegas it's 810 MB, in which case you'll have to tell us your export settings.

You can't compress an .avs file, the file is probably only a few KB in size because it's technically a text file.

So, like I said...elaborate.
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Postby Scintilla » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:25 am

CrackTheSky wrote:Ok, you're going to have to elaborate a lot more here. And what do you mean by 810 "mo"? I assume that's a typo and you mean MB...

No, I'm pretty sure that was intentional. I think I've seen this before, where people from countries other than the USA use "mo" instead of "MB".
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Postby Sereenie » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:58 am

Yep, it's French (look at his location). It's probably also used in other languages.

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Postby Rapture** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:28 pm

why are you solving his language problems? :shock:

i think i know where is his problem.

default Export setings on vegas goes like Uncompressed NTSC DV file,720*480 pixels,32 bit,29,970i FPS, 0,909 Aspect Ratio, Lower Fields First (Fields Order), and 48 000 Hz PCM Uncompressed Audio.

at least it was like that on my Vegas until i changed it. Uncompressed video Export is changeable in all Options,like FPS,Aspect Ratio,size and etc.

when i'm exporting ucompressed file from Vegas with those settings,my 30 secs vid becomes like 1.1 GB. and when i export with that NTSC DV thingy,it suddenly becomes 2,10 GB , and despites that,XviD exported file had much better view,since that NTSC DV instead of simple pixels,uses LINES! that is sure not a good thing if you use a lot of effects - believe me,i waited for 3 hours to export my 1:16 lenght vid (it took 4GB of free space o.O) adn guess what? it was such a crap that i deleted it after seeing how crappy all effects,and whole vid looked like. then i made Uncompressed version - it took me 1 and half of hour, 2GB of space,and gave me wonderful quality!

Moral? Always check your Export Setings in Vegas! If you want to export Uncompressed, never, I say to you - NEVER LEAVE IT EXPORT AS DEFAULTED NTSC DV!

better to choose to Export in : "Default Template (uncompressed)"


so that's what i think.

damn i'm starting to write too long and pointless posts :shock:
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Postby Banass » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:49 pm

rapture16 wrote:why are you solving his language problems? :shock:

i think i know where is his problem.

default Export setings on vegas goes like Uncompressed NTSC DV file,720*480 pixels,32 bit,29,970i FPS, 0,909 Aspect Ratio, Lower Fields First (Fields Order), and 48 000 Hz PCM Uncompressed Audio.

at least it was like that on my Vegas until i changed it. Uncompressed video Export is changeable in all Options,like FPS,Aspect Ratio,size and etc.

when i'm exporting ucompressed file from Vegas with those settings,my 30 secs vid becomes like 1.1 GB. and when i export with that NTSC DV thingy,it suddenly becomes 2,10 GB , and despites that,XviD exported file had much better view,since that NTSC DV instead of simple pixels,uses LINES! that is sure not a good thing if you use a lot of effects - believe me,i waited for 3 hours to export my 1:16 lenght vid (it took 4GB of free space o.O) adn guess what? it was such a crap that i deleted it after seeing how crappy all effects,and whole vid looked like. then i made Uncompressed version - it took me 1 and half of hour, 2GB of space,and gave me wonderful quality!

Moral? Always check your Export Setings in Vegas! If you want to export Uncompressed, never, I say to you - NEVER LEAVE IT EXPORT AS DEFAULTED NTSC DV!

better to choose to Export in : "Default Template (uncompressed)"


so that's what i think.

damn i'm starting to write too long and pointless posts :shock:


Yep I'm French and I meant MB.

Thank for the info, raptor. I'll check that out.

Yeah, I wasn't so clear, so I'll explain again.

I ripped my DVD files (.VOB and damn they are big!) Then, I put them and arranged them on VDub (deinterlacing, etc)<--the files are still taking a lot of space! Then, I use a converter software (Super, so don't laugh at me :oops: ) to convert the "polished" .AVS file into .AVI (With that operation, my files are now 275mb instead of 1gb).

Now, I'm using my latest converted . avi files in Vegas, but a 10 sec long video= still 1gb!

Help! (But I'll test what rapture said)
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:55 pm

Your experience is typical if not small for that much video. Editing sometimes takes up a lot of HDD space. My clip folder for my last project is over 60GB. That's not how big your damned export is going to be, so stop worrying.
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Postby Scintilla » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:19 pm

primeking wrote:Now, I'm using my latest converted . avi files in Vegas, but a 10 sec long video= still 1gb!

Help! (But I'll test what rapture said)

It sounds like you're exporting uncompressed. Try using a lossless codec, such as HuffYUV or Lagarith, instead.

More on that here (for an older version of Vegas, at least):
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... xport.html
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Postby Banass » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:34 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:Your experience is typical if not small for that much video. Editing sometimes takes up a lot of HDD space. My clip folder for my last project is over 60GB. That's not how big your damned export is going to be, so stop worrying.


Whoa!!! and a-m-v.org can support such a big upload????
Usually, I put my vid on my amv and youtube account, but oh well, I'll forget for the you-tube part.



I tried it already, scintilla. But after 4 gb, it says that I reach the limits or something like that.
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Postby Scintilla » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:28 pm

primeking wrote:
BasharOfTheAges wrote:Your experience is typical if not small for that much video. Editing sometimes takes up a lot of HDD space. My clip folder for my last project is over 60GB. That's not how big your damned export is going to be, so stop worrying.

Whoa!!! and a-m-v.org can support such a big upload????

No, it can't. You'd take the huge file from Vegas and compress it to a more reasonable size with another program, such as VirtualDub(/Mod), and a codec meant for distribution, such as XviD or DivX.
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Postby Banass » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:52 pm

^This is the answer I was looking for!


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Postby Banass » Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:13 pm

Ok, I don't know why, but it seems that my ancient method of conversion doesn't work anymore.

So, I need your help.

I'm stuck in Virual Dub Mod. I've arranged the .avs file in DGindex, and I've imported it in VDubM. Now, I have to ''save as'' my file, so it will be .avi.

I chose Lagarith as ''compresser'', but my output reach and stop at 4 gb.

What should I do?
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Postby starseekergem » Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:39 am

Segment the .avi. It looks like you have a FATS32 HDD, which can only handle filesizes up to 4GB.
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Postby Rapture** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:20 pm

starseekergem wrote:Segment the .avi. It looks like you have a FATS32 HDD, which can only handle filesizes up to 4GB.


There is no need for that... :roll:

@Banass Thou may try exportin' thy vid the way Scintilla said,that is in DivX or Xvid codec. It's not like thou will be editin' with thy exported vid right? If it's for viewin' then use XviD or DivX...

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Postby Kariudo » Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:02 pm

I don't have vegas, but something tells me that you won't get as good of a result if you let vegas compress using xvid as compared to if you let vdubmod compress the export using xvid.

(maybe it's just that I have premiere pro)

from experience, vdubmod lets you control more options (which can lead to a better encode)
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