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Postby Minion » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:15 pm

it was actual 720x480. and the final export is 640x480. gtfo, kthnx
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Postby DJ_Izumi » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:18 pm

You resize 720x480 to 640x480 to get a correct 1:1 PAR for PC viewing. If you just crop you're leaving it stretched out slightly (And foolishly)
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Postby Keeper of Hellfire » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:25 pm

Kariudo's scripts works for me too. AviSynth crashes if I take out the PP=7 parameter or set it to 6 (which equals the default). With other PP it works too. Strange, if I work with DVD footage, it works with the default setting. :roll:
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Postby Minion » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:25 pm

Minion wrote:it was actual 720x480

square pixel.

post a script to help, or gtfo troll
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Postby DJ_Izumi » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:47 pm

Minion wrote:
Minion wrote:it was actual 720x480

square pixel.

post a script to help, or gtfo troll


If the footage came off a DVD or DV cam at 720x480 it didn't have square pixels. It had rectangular pixels at an aspect ratio of 10/11 (Roughly). This is because TV's don't have square pixels. PCs on the other hand, do. This is why 720x480 footage looks a bid 'wide' on the PC and why it should be resized to 640x480. (Well, that's the simple way. You could also do it entirely at 720x480 and make sure all your graphics are at a 10/11 ratio (Easily done by doing them at 720x540 and then scaling down to 720x480) and check marking the 4:3 tag as the aspect ratio for playback which is available in MKV, MP4 Mpeg and AVI... And probably a few others, I dunno.)

More importantly, why do you even think you can build a script to do an inverse telecine on this? You can't. Raw anime footage is usually animated at 24fps (23.976) and was telecined (3:2 pulldown) to get it to 29.97fps for NTSC broadcast. You could have easily used an inverse telecine on the footage BEFORE you edited it and edited natively at 23.976fps.

However you didn't and all you effects, pans, zooms and stuff are rendered at 29.97fps natively, (And I'm not sure if it's rendered at 29.97fps with both fields being a matched set or if it's 29.97fps with each field being independant and making it true 59.96 FIELDS per second. If so, that's even WORSE than just both fields being matched sets).

So no, you can't use a an inverse telecine script to return this footage to 23.967fps progressive because due to the way you edited this it's not possible. You can, at best, run a standard deinterlacing filter, leave it at 29.97fps and deal with the ghosting fromt he deinterlacing.

Unless you can go back and re-edit this the right way, no one's going to give you a script that'll take the native 29.97fps effects you did and make them 23.976fps without making decimating entire frames and making it jumpy.
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Postby Minion » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:55 pm

im not asking for editing tips. script or gtfo
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Postby DJ_Izumi » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:59 pm

You can't make a script for what you want to do because your souce is inherintely flawed. You are trying to take a mix of telecined footage with native 29.97fps footage and inverse telecine the entire thing without making it jumpy. You can't.

There is no script to do what you want to do. Without fixing what you messed up in the first place, you have to either interlace it and deal with it or use your existing script that makes it jumpy. You have to either suck it up and fix what you did wrong at the point where you can fix it, or deal with having an encode that is either jumpy or has de-interlacing ghosts.
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Postby Minion » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:04 pm

remaking it is not an option, as there is a deadline. otherwise i would have already.

if your not gonna try to actually fix it, post elsewhere
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Postby DJ_Izumi » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:08 pm

Minion wrote:remaking it is not an option, as there is a deadline. otherwise i would have already.

if your not gonna try to actually fix it, post elsewhere


The deadline approaching is your fault for being too lazy to spend the 15mins to prepair your footage correctly in the first place.

If you don't believe me go ask anyone else. Tell them you did a bunch of effects and transsitions natively at 29.97fps and you want to make them 23.976 without just decimating frames and having it look jumpy or just being stuck de-interlacing.

If you'd read the guides you'd know you arn't going to make a script to do this. Why else do you think all the scripts that normally work to easly inverse telecine anime arn't working here? Do you think your footage is magically different? No, you messed it up and made it hybrid footage.
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Postby Minion » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:13 pm

if it the G in gtfo that confuses you? or the O?
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