Scintilla wrote:... have you read the guides, specifically <a href="/guides/avtech">the A/V guide</a>? The methods it illustrates make extensive use of VirtualDubMod, an excellent free encoder that most people around here seem to use.
Kariudo wrote:did you get the mac OSX version from this site?
also, virtualdub(/Mod) should be fairly easy for noobs to pick up (I think)
how to use vdub
elvirasweeney wrote:That's a l-o-o-o-o-ng page for a newbie who barely knows what "codec" means! It's a great guide, no mistake, but I fear that some people need to take baby steps. A few boxes to tick, and few numbers to fill in, press "GO" and they're done. That's what I'm hoping to find. (Kind of like QT Pro.)
elvirasweeney wrote:The issue isn't really the Mac question, but a "newbie friendly" PC question. I have been trying to encourage other newbie PC vidders to do something better than your standard export-out-of-Windows-Movie-Maker using some dreadful WMV export. I fear that VirtualDub is not quite newbie-friendly enough for some of them. So I'm trying to find something else that's at least a step up from what they're currently using. (Later on they can tackle VirtualDub Mod.) I have done some experiments with exporting (for instance) a DV AVI file from Windows Movie Maker, and have gotten decent results using MPEG Streamclip on the PC. But I find myself porting the WMM AVI file over to my Mac to get an serious work done, because my PC apps just aren't cutting it.
If Quicktime Pro worked as well on the PC as it does on the Mac, I'd recommend that in a heartbeat. But the Windows version of QT Pro is a mere shadow of what the Mac version is. (Why that is, I cannot say. Perhaps I'm not configuring it right.) The Windows version won't open all the file types that the Mac can—it won't export to DivX, etc. etc.
To put this another way, I'm looking for a "dumbed down" not-as-good-as-VirtualDub but okay-to-get-started app for Windows-based vidding newbies. So far, only MPEG Streamclip comes close to providing all that I'm looking for. River Past's video cleaner is pretty decent, but with some deficiencies. SUPER has problems with not enough customizable frame sizes (as well as a few other things). And so forth and so on.
elvirasweeney wrote:Thanks for the link to Avidemux, Kariudo! I downloaded it but for some reason it's not happy with my Mac . . . Hmmm ... Will try later; it looks promising! :D
Qyot27 wrote:(and if someone with an interest in video editing doesn't want to get in and learn how to use a reasonably-simple program like VDub they shouldn't be trying in the first place, IMO
not wanting to do something like that is the cause for a lot of poor-looking output; even something akin to Quicktime Pro is complex enough that to get good results there needs some instruction).
Gepetto wrote:whoah, elvirasweeney, you put Qyot's remark a little out of proportion. He meant that if people absolutely resist to learning VDb ten they shouldn't keep trying. If they say "later" and really do intend to use it later, then that's fine, of course. We're not that extremist here
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