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Need Help, Badly This Time Guys: Script And AMVApp Problem

Postby TwilightChrono » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:11 pm

So, my question to you guys is, using the 3.0 Beta AMVApp I was curious if you guys could provide me with a script for the following anime's so that I may finish my video and install the new version.

The current script I am using is this:

Mpeg2Source("C:\Users\Twilight\Desktop\Ripped Footage\El Hazard\Combined Footage.d2v")
Telecide(1)
Decimate(5)
Tweak(cont=1.1)
Awarpsharp(12)
Deen("a2d",3,7,9)
Crop(8,58,-8,-58)
LanczosResize(848,480)

However, this makes it too bright and when the contrast is taken away it's still either a little bright or too grainy.
So, I need a new script that works best for the following anime's:

Birdy The Mighty DECODE
Rosario+Vampire CAPU2
Lucky Star
K-ON!
K-ON!!
Gurren Lagan Yoko Box
Dragon Crisis
Air TV

Thanks in advance guys. I would like the colors to be sharp and the video to be crisp. Keep in mind I am using the 3.0 Beta AMVApp.
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Re: Need Help, Badly This Time Guys: Script And AMVApp Probl

Postby Zarxrax » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:50 am

Why are you using the 3.0 Beta? It has been out of beta for several years now. You complain about losing contrast and the colors being too bright, don't you think maybe thats because you are ajusting the contrast with "Tweak(cont=1.1)"?
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Re: Need Help, Badly This Time Guys: Script And AMVApp Probl

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:38 am

It's ridiculous to think that one script will work for all of those sources. In fact, it's almost ridiculous to expect that a single script will ever work for more than one source.
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Re: Need Help, Badly This Time Guys: Script And AMVApp Probl

Postby mirkosp » Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:24 am

BasharOfTheAges wrote:it's almost ridiculous to expect that a single script will ever work for more than one source.

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FFVideoSource("remuxed m2ts.mkv")
spline36resize(1280,720)

Is the script for 95% of non-upscaled animu BDs, really. :ying:

Which brings me to the next point. Not filtering is often better than filtering, especially if one does not really know how to.

Throw awarpsharp and deen out of your plugins folder, they are cancer and should only be used by those that do know how and when to properly use them (and the way you're calling them plus the sources you've listed make me doubt you do). Sorry if I sound like an ass when I say this, but I've saw those filters ruin way too many sources for no reason at all, me being a culprit of this too in the past, so I'd rather not leave them around if possible.

Tweak isn't meant to be used like that, too.
If you want to increase the contrast you can do that in your NLE, because it's meant to be an effect in anything. Rather, do check that you are using the correct levels and matrix when working with your sources.
As I think the guide says, TV Levels (aka what all your animu sources will be in barring mastering fails) means luma is 16-235 and chroma is 16-240 instead of the full 0-255 range.
What does this mean? Well, it means that if the conversion to rgb is done with the wrong levels, you'll be getting a dark grey instead of black and a light grey instead of white. Which does sound like a possible reason for the lighter colours you lament.

As for the "too grainy," I'll just say that grain and noise are different things, and grain itself isn't necessarily a bad thing, and don't ever listen to whatever the old guide ever said about "light noise" or whatever it was while referring to dithering, because dithering is good for you unless you like your sources to look like a banded mess. In the newer guide it's actually corrected as it shows a somewhat light noise as an example instead of just dithering like in the azu example of the avtechbeta.

Last but not least, I suggest you to switch from decomb to tivtc for your IVTC needs, since the latter is much better than the former at automatic IVTC.
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Re: Need Help, Badly This Time Guys: Script And AMVApp Probl

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:10 am

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Mpeg2Source("C:\Users\Twilight\Desktop\Ripped Footage\El Hazard\Combined Footage.d2v")
tfm(mode=1,pp=5,slow=2,micmatching=2,clip2=tdeint(mode=2,type=3)) # removes interlacing
tdecimate()             # removes duplicate frames (29.97fps-->23.976fps)
Crop(8,58,-8,-58)       # if you really need to chop off those areas
ttempsmooth()           # some cleaning; less destructive than deen()
spline36resize(848,480) # Better resizer than lanczos
lsfmod()                # light sharpening without going overboard
gradfunkmirror()        # restores gradients after all the above stuff broke them

- You could probably get better results by switching your method of removing interlacing/duplicates;
- Be aware that changing this could result in frame mis-alignment with your old method.
- Get rid of tweak() and do color/levels adjustments in your editor like mirko said;
- Make sure color corrections are done after any cleaning (should you decide to do any)
- Don't sharpen then clean; clean then sharpen.
- Don't use deen() and awarpsharp(). But if you must, try ttempsmooth() and lsfmod()
- These days, compressing your file properly could effectively do the same thing as 'cleaning'


TwilightChrono wrote:I would like the colors to be sharp
Take a minute right now to picture how that would look...
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Re: Need Help, Badly This Time Guys: Script And AMVApp Probl

Postby Mister Hatt » Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:05 am

Sharper colours? Try this:
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MergeChroma(unsharpen().msharpen())


Disclaimer: this is for advanced users only and I do not recommend the OP actually tries this
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Re: Need Help, Badly This Time Guys: Script And AMVApp Probl

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:55 am

Ok, so technically you can sharpen the chroma channel separately... :bzz2:

But the colors themselves can't be 'sharper.'
Saying you want color to be sharp is like saying you want sound to be bright. It doesn't make sense. :nose:
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Re: Need Help, Badly This Time Guys: Script And AMVApp Probl

Postby Pwolf » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:19 pm

Phantasmagoriat wrote:Saying you want color to be sharp is like saying you want sound to be bright. It doesn't make sense. :nose:


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Re: Need Help, Badly This Time Guys: Script And AMVApp Probl

Postby Pwolf » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:19 pm

damnit...
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Re: Need Help, Badly This Time Guys: Script And AMVApp Probl

Postby Mister Hatt » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:58 pm

Bright can be used for more than just visual means, it's often used to describe sound or taste, and not just by audiophiles.
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Re: Need Help, Badly This Time Guys: Script And AMVApp Probl

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:23 pm

Okay, it's maybe not the best example... but you know what I mean...

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