This script still good ?

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Re: This script still good ?

Post by Heavy amv » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:33 pm

Ok i get it.

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Re: This script still good ?

Post by Cannonaire » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:32 pm

Just in reply to mirkosp's first post, the SS option in DeHalo_alpha is for reducing the aliasing that results from the process of removing the halos. Raising it will help with these, but as far as I have seen and AFAIK it will not protect any detail from being lost. I was also under the impression that Spline64Resize didn't even exist in AVS 2.58, and that in 2.6a it is still broken. Any confirmation? In any case, I would still use Spline36Resize.

Heavy amv, with downloaded footage, you spend time downloading crap then bring it into avisynth and try to do what you can to fix obvious problems. With DVDs, you rip the footage (much faster than downloading 14GB I would think), index it (very fast process), then open it in Avisynth and fix the obvious problems. I count one very small additional step between the two, and the avisynth part should be a lot easier if you use the DVDs. It's also likely to turn out a lot better if you do.

If you still intend to use the MKVs, I can't stress enough that you still shouldn't use DirectShowSource. Mirkosp's advice to use FFVideoSource should not be ignored.
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Re: This script still good ?

Post by mirkosp » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:41 am

Cannonaire wrote:Just in reply to mirkosp's first post, the SS option in DeHalo_alpha is for reducing the aliasing that results from the process of removing the halos. Raising it will help with these, but as far as I have seen and AFAIK it will not protect any detail from being lost.
Idk, I guess SS stands for SuperSample (just checked the wiki, it's true), so it's by how much it should upscale the image before applying the filter... of course the aliasing will be reduced if you apply a filter and then downscale, and I'm positive that the parameters was made available exactly for that, but I guess that using a filter while supersampled would still have a different impact on detail than it would at the original resolution, with the same values.
I was also under the impression that Spline64Resize didn't even exist in AVS 2.58, and that in 2.6a it is still broken. Any confirmation? In any case, I would still use Spline36Resize.
It exists in 2.5.8 (it was introduced in this version along with blackmanresize), but it is somewhat broken, and it was apparently fixed in 2.6. The resizer that was actually introduced in 2.6 is sincresize, but it apparently doesn't produce a proper output yet, according to Mister Hatt. I don't use 2.6 so I wouldn't know...
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Re: This script still good ?

Post by Heavy amv » Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:51 am

Ok i found the dvds today in a second hand shop. I use the script in the other thread and i come back to you if i have some issues...

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Re: This script still good ?

Post by Cannonaire » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:48 am

In response to mirkosp, Sincresize is actually the reason I downloaded 2.6a in the first place. I can assure you the results are indeed wretched. :( I can't say how spline64 looks though.
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Re: This script still good ?

Post by Mister Hatt » Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:40 pm

Sincresize is possibly the most useless resizing filter unless used for VERY specific analog-digital conversion progressing (seriously, read the sinc function page on Wikipedia, it's interesting) and I don't know why anyone would use it. Spline36resize remains the best filter in there, although bicubic/bilinear still have their uses.

@Heavy amv, just so you know, the reason your halos are so bad is probably because warpsharpening at high depths has that effect on anime. Your filtering is way too strong and ripping the DVDs is significantly faster than all the time you're spending tweaking something broken as shit. If the ghosting is in your mkv as well, it is impossible to fix, so I would suggest just sucking it up and grabbing the discs already rather than wasting everyone's time. This footage is known to be a pain in the ass; pay attention to the advice you've been given already and get the results you're looking for.

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Re: This script still good ?

Post by mirkosp » Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:31 am

Mister Hatt wrote:If the ghosting is in your mkv as well, it is impossible to fix, so I would suggest just sucking it up and grabbing the discs already rather than wasting everyone's time.
Heavy amv wrote:Ok i found the dvds today in a second hand shop. I use the script in the other thread and i come back to you if i have some issues...
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Re: This script still good ?

Post by Heavy amv » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:17 pm

About the last pack of pictures, i remember you that the original footage is to the right.

About the dvds, the first dvd is just ugly... the others are quite good and not so hard to clean. So i rip it, make d2v files, use the script and edit, in order to save all the details i love so much and for America... God blesses me.

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Re: This script still good ?

Post by EvaFan » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:45 am

I'd ask misterhatt to tackle the My hime R1's but he's prolly angry with me :| .

I gave up hope on them, well specifically a few discs from what I remember. I think only the first 2-4 discs were a blended nightmare, don't remember anymore.
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Re: This script still good ?

Post by Mister Hatt » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:47 am

Rather than being emo about it, upload a sample as well as your script etc so we can take a look. I like puzzles, so finding odd video patterns and such is fun for me, I like the challenge. Maybe I should make a thread to figure out all the really weird shit people come across. I'll write it after those stickies that will never happen.

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