CascadaThon (Betas Due August 10th)

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Re: CascadaThon (Updates page 49)

Postby Hagaren Viper » Tue May 26, 2009 8:28 pm

Inan wrote:TC beta wuz sent


The one i sent was the one LA made me redo i sent it so you could get an idea of what im working on, Although i am planning on making it just about Kaede, Asa and Rin so itll look a little different and will focus more on the relationship of those 3

Inan, can I see your revised beta? I don't think I can quite review yours now if its so different ^^;
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Re: CascadaThon (Updates page 49)

Postby Inan » Tue May 26, 2009 8:32 pm

LA made me re do it again


so ill start editing again with another idea in mind once i have more clips
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Re: CascadaThon

Postby LoLoka » Wed May 27, 2009 12:21 am

LittleAtari wrote:Alright, I've already told a few people about this and figured that it was time that I make an official post about this.

On Sunday, I found out that I will be needing surgery. For now, it doesn't seem like a serious surgery. It will most likely be out-patient. However, I am tired as hell and in quite a bit of pain. To make things worse, the end of the quarter is nearing, which means that I have a bunch of final projects to get done.

This means a couple of things:
1) I'm taking a break until June 8th to make sure that I get all school work done while having to deal with this surgery.
2) The MEP will not be put on pause while I'm on break. I am going to upload all betas tonight to a server and I expect you all to take an active role in critiquing.
3) No one can be banned from the MEP while I'm on break. If someone is getting out hand or is just plain sucking in their editing, consider them to be on probation until I get back and make a final decision.
4) When I do get back, a beta deadline will be set for the end of June. This deadline is final and is the last deadline. All work should be complete by then, no excuses. If you joined late (LoLoka, PPForya, Code), please try your hardest to make this deadline. I know I'm squeezing you guys, but we do have a couple of conventions lined up for this MEP. Please say something if this is a problem.

Final Note: I may be taking a break, but that doesn't mean I'm gone. I will still be lurking on the Org and popping in every now and then. It's just that this is a lot of stuff to handle right now. TC, is the other coordinator, he has the privilege to declare someone on probation. Send him your betas during this time. If you have a new beta that you would like to be uploaded, PM me the link and I'll let you know when it's up on the server I am using.


good luck :up:
and don't worry i'll definitely have my part before the end of June ^^
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Re: CascadaThon (Updates page 49)

Postby TwilightChrono » Wed May 27, 2009 4:38 am

Well, I actually liked this beta Inan. Here is my review:

Inan CascadaThon Track Review:

Alright, really, there are only 1 or 2 things that I need to say about this.

1st off being: I'm having difficulty figuring out which characters your trying to focus on.
It seemed to me that your trying to focus on Sia and Nerine then all of a sudden it switches to
emotional scenes of Kaede. I think you should focus more on 1 of 2 people here. There seem to also
be just 2 non-complacent scenes of Asa in there as well.

I personally think that you should either focus the story around Asa or Kaede, as they both have
very emotional dealings with Rin throughout the show. More so than Sia, Nerine or Primula.
Personally, I think Asa would fit more because of the deep emotional connection between her and Rin.
Although, Kaede would fit well also because of her feelings of guilt of what happened to her and Rin
in their childhood. And I think you should focus on one of these 2 factors.

I just think either just Asa or Kaede will do just fine. I kinda struggled to see what you were going
for with all the characters.

The editing seemed fine, and really peaceful like. Easy on the eyes I guess you could say, so no complaints here.

I hope this helps.

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Re: CascadaThon (Updates page 49)

Postby Ghet » Wed May 27, 2009 3:40 pm

TwilightChrono wrote:
Inan CascadaThon Track Review:

Alright, really, there are only 1 or 2 things that I need to say about this.

1st off being: I'm having difficulty figuring out which characters your trying to focus on.
It seemed to me that your trying to focus on Sia and Nerine then all of a sudden it switches to
emotional scenes of Kaede. I think you should focus more on 1 of 2 people here. There seem to also
be just 2 non-complacent scenes of Asa in there as well.

I personally think that you should either focus the story around Asa or Kaede, as they both have
very emotional dealings with Rin throughout the show. More so than Sia, Nerine or Primula.
Personally, I think Asa would fit more because of the deep emotional connection between her and Rin.
Although, Kaede would fit well also because of her feelings of guilt of what happened to her and Rin
in their childhood. And I think you should focus on one of these 2 factors.

I just think either just Asa or Kaede will do just fine. I kinda struggled to see what you were going
for with all the characters.

The editing seemed fine, and really peaceful like. Easy on the eyes I guess you could say, so no complaints here.

I hope this helps.

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I hope you dont take this wrong - and i really have no say since i havent seen the beta, but the suggestions youre giving him are a bit TOO concise - to the point where if he follows them it wont be his track anymore, it would be him editing to your idea.
the purpose of an MEP is to create a collage of editing where all the pieces tie in together but each piece expresses an individual idea. to that ends a criticism like "the story was unclear" is completely legitimate, but one that says "make the story this this and this" detracts from the ideas set forth by the creator.
again, no offense intended, i am just expressing my views on it.
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Re: CascadaThon (Updates page 49)

Postby Inan » Wed May 27, 2009 3:53 pm

Ghet wrote:
TwilightChrono wrote:
Inan CascadaThon Track Review:

Alright, really, there are only 1 or 2 things that I need to say about this.

1st off being: I'm having difficulty figuring out which characters your trying to focus on.
It seemed to me that your trying to focus on Sia and Nerine then all of a sudden it switches to
emotional scenes of Kaede. I think you should focus more on 1 of 2 people here. There seem to also
be just 2 non-complacent scenes of Asa in there as well.

I personally think that you should either focus the story around Asa or Kaede, as they both have
very emotional dealings with Rin throughout the show. More so than Sia, Nerine or Primula.
Personally, I think Asa would fit more because of the deep emotional connection between her and Rin.
Although, Kaede would fit well also because of her feelings of guilt of what happened to her and Rin
in their childhood. And I think you should focus on one of these 2 factors.

I just think either just Asa or Kaede will do just fine. I kinda struggled to see what you were going
for with all the characters.

The editing seemed fine, and really peaceful like. Easy on the eyes I guess you could say, so no complaints here.

I hope this helps.

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I hope you dont take this wrong - and i really have no say since i havent seen the beta, but the suggestions youre giving him are a bit TOO concise - to the point where if he follows them it wont be his track anymore, it would be him editing to your idea.
the purpose of an MEP is to create a collage of editing where all the pieces tie in together but each piece expresses an individual idea. to that ends a criticism like "the story was unclear" is completely legitimate, but one that says "make the story this this and this" detracts from the ideas set forth by the creator.
again, no offense intended, i am just expressing my views on it.



who is this ghet person ?
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Re: CascadaThon (Updates page 49)

Postby Vivaldi » Wed May 27, 2009 6:01 pm

Ghet wrote:
TwilightChrono wrote:
Inan CascadaThon Track Review:

Alright, really, there are only 1 or 2 things that I need to say about this.

1st off being: I'm having difficulty figuring out which characters your trying to focus on.
It seemed to me that your trying to focus on Sia and Nerine then all of a sudden it switches to
emotional scenes of Kaede. I think you should focus more on 1 of 2 people here. There seem to also
be just 2 non-complacent scenes of Asa in there as well.

I personally think that you should either focus the story around Asa or Kaede, as they both have
very emotional dealings with Rin throughout the show. More so than Sia, Nerine or Primula.
Personally, I think Asa would fit more because of the deep emotional connection between her and Rin.
Although, Kaede would fit well also because of her feelings of guilt of what happened to her and Rin
in their childhood. And I think you should focus on one of these 2 factors.

I just think either just Asa or Kaede will do just fine. I kinda struggled to see what you were going
for with all the characters.

The editing seemed fine, and really peaceful like. Easy on the eyes I guess you could say, so no complaints here.

I hope this helps.

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I hope you dont take this wrong - and i really have no say since i havent seen the beta, but the suggestions youre giving him are a bit TOO concise - to the point where if he follows them it wont be his track anymore, it would be him editing to your idea.
the purpose of an MEP is to create a collage of editing where all the pieces tie in together but each piece expresses an individual idea. to that ends a criticism like "the story was unclear" is completely legitimate, but one that says "make the story this this and this" detracts from the ideas set forth by the creator.
again, no offense intended, i am just expressing my views on it.

Ghet outta here.
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Re: CascadaThon (Updates page 49)

Postby LittleAtari » Wed May 27, 2009 6:13 pm

I just wanted to point out that Inan has already resolved to change the video to focus on less characters before TC even said anything. So anything said about the beta and the critique is essentially worthless, unless you're only talking about editing and not scene selection/story :sweat:

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Re: CascadaThon (Updates page 49)

Postby Inan » Wed May 27, 2009 6:20 pm

Yep im redoing my track..or not lol
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Re: CascadaThon (Updates page 49)

Postby Ghet » Wed May 27, 2009 6:24 pm

im talking about conceptually for any sort of criticism. the content of the video is for the editor to decide and if they want to make it a schizophrenic storyline it is within their liberty to
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Re: CascadaThon (Updates page 49)

Postby TwilightChrono » Wed May 27, 2009 11:40 pm

I didn't tell Inan to edit that way. I was merely making a suggestion. There were just a couple times watching it that I was like "WTF?" It was mainly because of the other characters that kept popping in. But, meh.
to the point where if he follows them it wont be his track anymore, it would be him editing to your idea.
the purpose of an MEP is to create a collage of editing where all the pieces tie in together but each piece expresses an individual idea. to that ends a criticism like "the story was unclear" is completely legitimate, but one that says "make the story this this and this" detracts from the ideas set forth by the creator.
again, no offense intended, i am just expressing my views on it.


If that was the case, I wouldn't have had to redo my beta so may times. On a related note, if that's the case, then consider my track done. Cause, I'm just editing how Vivaldi and the others are telling me too. I like my track how it is now, why should I change it to suit everyone elses tastes? But, I won't say I'm done, cause I don't feel like getting bitched at. Just pointing out the flaws in your statement. Besides, I'm almost done with my track anyway.
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Re: CascadaThon (Updates page 49)

Postby CodeZTM » Wed May 27, 2009 11:43 pm

Uhh... Well Kaze gave me an opinion on my track, so I'm still waiting on the rest of ya'll, although I think she gave some really great advice. :sweat:
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Re: CascadaThon (Updates page 49)

Postby Inan » Wed May 27, 2009 11:44 pm

i have another beta that is a little bit different that im currently uploading to sendspace, so if anyone wants to see just let me know and ill PM it to them

CODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! send me ur track if you have time please i would really like to see it
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Re: CascadaThon (Updates page 49)

Postby TwilightChrono » Wed May 27, 2009 11:45 pm

Send me both teh beta's pwease.
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Re: CascadaThon (Updates page 49)

Postby CodeZTM » Wed May 27, 2009 11:58 pm

Inan I love the new beta. :D I personally wouldn't want anything changed except for I'd love to see some horizontal bars with the piano beat. :D
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