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Postby Scott Green » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:58 am

-Bauzi- wrote:I´m really worried about you. Or I´m just envy xD
I mean:
You must have such a good and big bandwidth that you don´t have really to care about such a mistake.


Greggus1 wrote:Oh, and Bauzi, flat rate. Things usually get tough round the end of the month, when I get near my limit. In any case, I've never considered upload capacity that much of a luxury :P


o.O i think Bauzi was worried about me!!!
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Postby guy07 » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:03 pm

I think Rex should post something, where is that guy? :?
Our new editor is posting less then our back up one, lol.[/code]
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Postby Kaxi » Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:25 am

Huuhh, loads of betas... :D

To Bauzi: no problem with the harsh critics, everybody knows that you want to help and not to say it sucks :D So keep those comments comming! :D

To CracktheSky: really good work sKy, i really have no complaints about it, so if you say you're done, i'm okay with that. If this is the best quality you can get, i'll try to use this file, so if you have problems with lagarith, just compress it too something that makes the best video quality, i'll try to use that.

To Scott Green: thanks for the comments, they are appreciated, nice to see that you're interested in the project.

I won't beta test all of the new betas since almost everything has been discussed.
But here is mine, version 2, now in mp4:

<a href='http://www.sendspace.com/file/catht4'>http://www.sendspace.com/file/catht4</a>

Things i have changed:
- i have put some additional gradient map on the waves
- i have speeded up the Rosette's butt shakin' scene a little more
- put some feather on the effects at around 0:09
- the circle thingy now moves continuosly, of course, now it is not synced to anything, just moves around and around and around - stupid thing but i like it :D
- As Bauzi recommended, i put some blue thing in the background (the scenes already in the intro) (the scenes in the middle are still synced to the fast high beats)
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Postby BauziOLD » Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:43 am

:up:
The only thing that still disturbes me is "Remmington" (I hope so that this was the name of that guy) with a flap lip. Just don´t let him move his lips and I´m happy.
This lip flap is than when this final circle moves etc.
Yeah and of course in the end black&white scence shouldn´t be flap lip too.

The rest worked fine and pleased me.
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Postby Kaxi » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:03 pm

-Bauzi- wrote::up:
The only thing that still disturbes me is "Remmington" (I hope so that this was the name of that guy) with a flap lip. Just don´t let him move his lips and I´m happy.
This lip flap is than when this final circle moves etc.
Yeah and of course in the end black&white scence shouldn´t be flap lip too.

The rest worked fine and pleased me.


Thanks.
I know of this "Remmington case" and i'm gonna kill that lip flap :D
The other lip flap won't show because there will be a transition there, if i can't hide it, i'll try to find a solution for it.
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Postby BauziOLD » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:15 pm

if i can't hide it, i'll try to find a solution for it.


MAN! I guess that you are thinking to complicated.
There is such an easy solution. Well ok it isn´t so easy for Vegas, but still easy.
Uhm... what you need is a static not moving bmp you place after the movement of the guys.
So how do I get a "screenshot" or single frame out of Vegas? That´s a good question.
There is something called render image sequence (or in that direction). I currently don´t know were it is (because I have not Vegas on my system), but with this little "tool" you can capture single frames out of your project. A few parameters, an output directory and there you go.
Maybe Ben knows were it is or look at the help files. I think it was in the tools or extra section, but I don´t remeber.
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Postby Kaxi » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:49 pm

-Bauzi- wrote:
if i can't hide it, i'll try to find a solution for it.


MAN! I guess that you are thinking to complicated.
There is such an easy solution. Well ok it isn´t so easy for Vegas, but still easy.
Uhm... what you need is a static not moving bmp you place after the movement of the guys.
So how do I get a "screenshot" or single frame out of Vegas? That´s a good question.
There is something called render image sequence (or in that direction). I currently don´t know were it is (because I have not Vegas on my system), but with this little "tool" you can capture single frames out of your project. A few parameters, an output directory and there you go.
Maybe Ben knows were it is or look at the help files. I think it was in the tools or extra section, but I don´t remeber.


I'm well aware of this method, i used it a couple of times, i don't use Vegas to get the wanted frame out of the video, i use VirtualDub for that, although Vegas already has a little icon for this, it's called screenshot or something like that. The problem with this method is that sometimes you can see the transition between the video and the single frame in the output too, mainly its because the picture file you get isn't the same quality as in the video (it works fine with VirtualDub though).
The method i use recently is to slow down the motion in the clip, slow it down till you get only one frame, it's 100% that there is no quality change between the two scenes (the video and the one-frame slowed down video).
But the solution i mentioned would mean that i'd put another scene there, or something else, i don't know for now.
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Postby Greggus1 » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:56 pm

Wow, your piece rocked already Kaxi, and now it's just divine stuff. The lip-flap, by the way, didn't bother me at all. However, once again, it physically pained me to see the "Nur Getraumt" unlip-synched, and I'm honestly surprised no one else has agreed with me. To me, that could be remembered as the THE moment of the MEP. And just in case you don't want to try it because lip-synch isn't your forte (I don't get near it myself :P), we do happen to have the best lip-syncher the org has seen on the team, by the name of viper1255.

Great work, anyway :D
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Postby Kaxi » Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:25 pm

Greggus1 wrote:However, once again, it physically pained me to see the "Nur Getraumt" unlip-synched, and I'm honestly surprised no one else has agreed with me. To me, that could be remembered as the THE moment of the MEP.


Thanks for your comments Greg! :D
It's not that i didn't wanted to lip-sync it - i do think that it would be nice to have it lip-synced - but i already had the scenes and effects for that part, and just changing the scenes to a lip-sync scene, or mask out a lip-synced character would just take away a lot of space from the screen. But if you really want to see something like that, i'll take a look if i can find something for the lip sync there - but i'm not promising anything.
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Postby Greggus1 » Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:37 pm

Personally, I'd have the first lip-sync of "Nur Getraumt" be one of the background clips behind the circle, and have a superimposed cut-out of Rosette yelling it on the second, so as to not mess up your scene selection, or crowd the screen too much. I'm grateful you'll consider it :)
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Postby omegaevolution » Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:59 pm

Kaxi wrote:I won't beta test all of the new betas since almost everything has been discussed.


:(.......................................................LOL

omegaevolution wrote:2- Can anyone teach me how the f*** I encode with Lagarith!?!?!?!? O_O, I tried 10 times and it always ended without audio and in slow motion. (and 187 Mb size, though I knew that it was going to be big XD)


:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( , no one has answered this besides Danielle :(

Oh and Kaxi my PC hates mp4 (I think I told you this before :shock: ), Xvid version would be apreciated :D
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Postby Kaxi » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:10 pm

omegaevolution wrote:
omegaevolution wrote:2- Can anyone teach me how the f*** I encode with Lagarith!?!?!?!? O_O, I tried 10 times and it always ended without audio and in slow motion. (and 187 Mb size, though I knew that it was going to be big XD)


:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( , no one has answered this besides Danielle :(

Oh and Kaxi my PC hates mp4 (I think I told you this before :shock: ), Xvid version would be apreciated :D


And i thought i already told everybody that wmv would be also good - so if you can't encode in lagarith, no problems, pick the codec you can get the best video quality in, and send your segment in that. I think wmv is good for this (set the best video quality settings).

I know that your comp hates mp4, it just that i couldn't get this version into a good xvid file, some codec errors on my comp now :S, but i'll give you an xvid version as soon as i can get one.

P.S.: your beta was great, nice work.
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Postby omegaevolution » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:18 pm

Kaxi wrote:And i thought i already told everybody that wmv would be also good - so if you can't encode in lagarith, no problems, pick the codec you can get the best video quality in, and send your segment in that. I think wmv is good for this (set the best video quality settings).

I know that your comp hates mp4, it just that i couldn't get this version into a good xvid file, some codec errors on my comp now :S, but i'll give you an xvid version as soon as i can get one.

P.S.: your beta was great, nice work.


ughh .wmv? >.>, I hate that codec, ok I will try to see with what I can get the highest possible quality :D . thanks and... thanks LOL
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Postby CrackTheSky » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:26 pm

Kaxi wrote:To CracktheSky: really good work sKy, i really have no complaints about it, so if you say you're done, i'm okay with that. If this is the best quality you can get, i'll try to use this file, so if you have problems with lagarith, just compress it too something that makes the best video quality, i'll try to use that.


Oh, good God no. I am DEFINITELY going to compress that to Lagarith, WMV sucks. I'm also going to make a few subtle changes, mostly timing-related. It should be uploaded somewhere by this weekend, or even a day or two from now. I'll check out your beta now and give any advice, suggestions, or praise in a bit ^_^
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Postby BauziOLD » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:28 pm

Diagree.
The best lip syncer is kurt with this amv:
[vidid=18817]

no one has answered this besides Danielle

Lagarith works best when you don´t change anything. Launch the render menu of your project, choosse Lagarith and ready to render! Yeah of course you have to change fps and ressolution, but that´s not Lagarith´s beer.

O_O, I tried 10 times and it always ended without audio and in slow motion. (and 187 Mb size, though I knew that it was going to be big XD)

The size is normal the rest not. Get yourself the newest version of the codec. If this doesn´t work ether... Get yourself Huffy and render with this looseless codec.

I think wmv is good for this (set the best video quality settings).

wmv for the final segments? This was a joke, right? Just try Huffy instead of Lagarith.
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