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Postby Aleciel » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:31 pm

Adrian DX wrote:
ZZMaxX wrote:When I converted my videos to AVI, one 10 sec clip was nearly 40 Mb in size so I had no choice but to convert them to wmv.
Does this break any rules.


Yeah, my first entry (22 sec.) ended up at 229 MB.

I followed their guidelines down to every detail, so I guess they're expecting them to be this big. (understandable since once the clips are done and released in the final AMV Hell 4.avi, the clips will have been re-encoded so many times that having them smaller when they receive them wouldn't look very nice in the final product)


Its only that big because you didn't use the correct codec I believe. I think it compresses it, but im not sure, I only started learning alot of stuff a month ago.

My biggest clip is 30 seconds long and its only 6 mb.
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Postby Adrian DX » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:44 pm

Aleciel wrote:
Adrian DX wrote:
ZZMaxX wrote:When I converted my videos to AVI, one 10 sec clip was nearly 40 Mb in size so I had no choice but to convert them to wmv.
Does this break any rules.


Yeah, my first entry (22 sec.) ended up at 229 MB.

I followed their guidelines down to every detail, so I guess they're expecting them to be this big. (understandable since once the clips are done and released in the final AMV Hell 4.avi, the clips will have been re-encoded so many times that having them smaller when they receive them wouldn't look very nice in the final product)


Its only that big because you didn't use the correct codec I believe. I think it compresses it, but im not sure, I only started learning alot of stuff a month ago.

My biggest clip is 30 seconds long and its only 6 mb.


ssgwnbtd wrote:- Videos should be in AVI format, compressed using any one of the following: Huffyuv, Lagarith, DIVX or XVID codecs.

I used the Huffyuv codec and I get these insane sizes. Lets hope they're not TOO big for the AMV hell crew O.o

That would really bust my balls.
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Postby Aleciel » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:45 pm

Adrian DX wrote:
ssgwnbtd wrote:- Videos should be in AVI format, compressed using any one of the following: Huffyuv, Lagarith, DIVX or XVID codecs.

I used the Huffyuv codec and I get these insane sizes. Lets hope they're not TOO big for the AMV hell crew O.o

That would really bust my balls.


Well, I never experimented with Huffyuv, but I used Xvid and thats how mine came out.
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Postby Lukewh » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:49 pm

Aleciel wrote:
Adrian DX wrote:
ssgwnbtd wrote:- Videos should be in AVI format, compressed using any one of the following: Huffyuv, Lagarith, DIVX or XVID codecs.

I used the Huffyuv codec and I get these insane sizes. Lets hope they're not TOO big for the AMV hell crew O.o

That would really bust my balls.


Well, I never experimented with Huffyuv, but I used Xvid and thats how mine came out.


Xdiv was fantastic for me. great quality at low sizes.
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Postby Adrian DX » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:54 pm

Lukewh wrote:
Aleciel wrote:
Adrian DX wrote:
ssgwnbtd wrote:- Videos should be in AVI format, compressed using any one of the following: Huffyuv, Lagarith, DIVX or XVID codecs.

I used the Huffyuv codec and I get these insane sizes. Lets hope they're not TOO big for the AMV hell crew O.o

That would really bust my balls.


Well, I never experimented with Huffyuv, but I used Xvid and thats how mine came out.


Xdiv was fantastic for me. great quality at low sizes.


Thanks guys. I guess I'll give XVID another try for my last clip that I'm editing while my other entries are uploading. (Hope its not too late O.o)

I've tried XVID before, but I think there were several problems... *cant remember* Will give it another shot though.
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Postby Aleciel » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:02 am

Adrian DX wrote:
Thanks guys. I guess I'll give XVID another try for my last clip that I'm editing while my other entries are uploading. (Hope its not too late O.o)

I've tried XVID before, but I think there were several problems... *cant remember* Will give it another shot though.


Well if ya got a problem I can try to help you. Just say somthing if it doesnt work out.
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Postby Adrian DX » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:15 am

Oh yeah, right... Now I remember. When I try to export the movie using XviD, an "XviD Status" window opens and nothing happens. Eventually the program freezes (I'm using Adobe Premiere Pro 2 btw.)

Any ideas?
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Postby ZZMaxX » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:15 am

Adrian DX wrote:
Lukewh wrote:
Aleciel wrote:
Adrian DX wrote:
ssgwnbtd wrote:- Videos should be in AVI format, compressed using any one of the following: Huffyuv, Lagarith, DIVX or XVID codecs.

I used the Huffyuv codec and I get these insane sizes. Lets hope they're not TOO big for the AMV hell crew O.o

That would really bust my balls.


Well, I never experimented with Huffyuv, but I used Xvid and thats how mine came out.


Xdiv was fantastic for me. great quality at low sizes.


Thanks guys. I guess I'll give XVID another try for my last clip that I'm editing while my other entries are uploading. (Hope its not too late O.o)

I've tried XVID before, but I think there were several problems... *cant remember* Will give it another shot though.


I used All to AVI and converted my wmv files and they didn't have an insane size.
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Postby Adrian DX » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:18 am

ZZMaxX wrote:I used All to AVI and converted my wmv files and they didn't have an insane size.


Oh dude, that really won't make the crew guys any happier. You're gonna have to make them avi from the beginning of. The more you convert/re-encode the files, the more loss. Btw. did you make the clip(s) in Windows Movie Maker or something? (Just wondering, since they were originally wmv)
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Postby ZZMaxX » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:33 am

Adrian DX wrote:
ZZMaxX wrote:I used All to AVI and converted my wmv files and they didn't have an insane size.


Oh dude, that really won't make the crew guys any happier. You're gonna have to make them avi from the beginning of. The more you convert/re-encode the files, the more loss. Btw. did you make the clip(s) in Windows Movie Maker or something? (Just wondering, since they were originally wmv)


I used Windows Movie Maker to make the wmvs then I used All to AVI to convert them.
I PMed zarxrax about the mixup because I got the rules confused and even sent them an email so I hope they're understanding about it.
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Postby Adrian DX » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:46 am

ZZMaxX wrote:I used Windows Movie Maker to make the wmvs then I used All to AVI to convert them.
I PMed zarxrax about the mixup because I got the rules confused and even sent them an email so I hope they're understanding about it.


Ok, yeah I hope so for your sake too. Because they seemed quite determined that
AMV Hell wrote:"WMV files or videos containing subtitles or a divx logo will be deleted immediately. Don't even waste your time."
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Postby usa mimi productions » Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:06 am

Lukewh wrote:
Aleciel wrote:
Adrian DX wrote:
ssgwnbtd wrote:- Videos should be in AVI format, compressed using any one of the following: Huffyuv, Lagarith, DIVX or XVID codecs.

I used the Huffyuv codec and I get these insane sizes. Lets hope they're not TOO big for the AMV hell crew O.o

That would really bust my balls.


Well, I never experimented with Huffyuv, but I used Xvid and thats how mine came out.


Xdiv was fantastic for me. great quality at low sizes.


same here, xvid is pretty efficent and yields small file sizes. that and i cannot export to huffyuv or such easily on my mac.
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Postby Hadien » Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:53 am

Well I'm one for visual sharpness and quality. my videos are relatively large
the largest I've got is 350 mb. and thats one compressed by lagarith. with the fact that their ftp server taking on what i'm sure to be in the thousands of submissions, I doubt such file sizes would be any problem to them.

I'm also pretty sure I could send them the vids uncompressed and the only thing they might bitch at me for is unnecessarily taking up more bandwidth than I need.

My major skit crashed and burned as it wouldn't animate right. And I pretty much planned to submit just that one skit. It was mainly a project to teach me something new. and it failed...

As I always say to learning...Most efforts lead to ふクろコうジ

anyway, so 3 hours before the deadline I threw 3 together and sent them.

I think 2 of them will make it and the third I didn't have time to perfect. I mean I literally barely managed to get it in before the deadline LOL
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Postby Aleciel » Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:02 am

Adrian DX wrote:Oh yeah, right... Now I remember. When I try to export the movie using XviD, an "XviD Status" window opens and nothing happens. Eventually the program freezes (I'm using Adobe Premiere Pro 2 btw.)

Any ideas?


Well, I used a converter after I saved it from Movie maker and etc. I never tried saving it WITH the video program like adobe premiere. So try to convert it after saving I guess.
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Postby Kevmaster » Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:09 am

ALWAYS render your Videos as <i>Uncompressed</i> or Lossless (Huffy, lagarith) Files and later compress them with Virtualdubmod to xvid, that will give you a lot better Visual Quality than directly rendering as xvid our of your Editing Software.


Here's a guide that will help:


http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/xvid.html
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