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Postby Illia Sadri » Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:08 am

Dezbo21 wrote:man, that sucks. Seems to be that the first video in any contest I hear about is "cursed" whenever you give it a deadline.

I'm so sorry about that. If it helps, I didn't submit anything after the changeover, so what ever info you have for my stuff is still the same as what you have.

Best of luck with the getting everyone's info. Keep us posted about when it comes out.


Well, I never did get the information as far as audio sources and video sources even from those from before the changeover. And Darkness, you are one of the very few who did give information. You are covered. I have Vlad, I have Judgeholden, I have mine obviously (I better know what I edited with).

And yes basically, the videos for both events were on two harddrives. The render was on one and was intended to immediately get transfered to vid staff computer and also burned to a DL disk (I hate DL burns personally). Well the schedule basically had me in events from opening ceremonies until about midnight with one 2 hour break between. That ended up being spent on getting food.

This also meant my computer was moved multiple times in this duration as no event happened to be back to back in the same room. This caused a static shock somehow to fry the controller of my 400Gig SATA drive. It was pretty much brand new and assumed to be the least likely to blow. Go figure.

Basically the contest itself was the priority. Someone offered to help and we ended up chugging over his core2duo machine from home so we could get 2 computers working on this. Typically for me to compile the contest and fully render it taked approximately a week. I had about 15 hours until the next showing. His computer compiled rendered while I redid the category sprite animations.

Contest gets compiled for afternoon sat showings and basically it is on to Hell. Now.... this is WHY I give specific codecs to submit to and why certain ones are highly not recommended. I had every codec under the sun. I had wmv galore, divx so old I needed to get divx since xvid didn't recognize it, xvid, only a handful of mpeg2, an old indeo codec and virtually every screen resolution under the sun....

So imagine from about 4pm to 11pm trying to render all that. Everything for the contest was already converted to mpeg2, and most of them were submitted in mpeg2 or divx, which are simple to convert. But with the hell clips some of them I had to kinda do backwards methods to begin with to get them to play. This meant a 20 second video was taking longer to deal with than a 5 min long drama video. We had a lot of choking of programs on some of these.

So basically if this happens again, there are going to be some much more stringent requirements in how these things are submitted. The first time rendering took a couple weeks to process these things. It is going to be held to the same standards as the amv contest in terms of accepted codecs and quality. Quite simply if I need to download new codecs just to play it, then chances are it is going to be problematic. It is not meant to be mean but this event should have not been harder and longer to put together than the 2 hour long contest that had larger files, bumpers to proofread etc etc.
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Postby Dezbo21 » Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:27 am

I sent my info in twice. You told me it was ok. What do you still need from me?
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Postby Illia Sadri » Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:01 am

I didn't name names. And yes your resend was far better. You weren't the only one who had used a strange codec. Yours I had issues even playing back much less converting. The rest could be played but many of them were in haphazard resolutions and the most stubborn codecs. And yes your info came through.

I got some info from the person directly.... others never did submit. That's the fact. I really can't do much about it. If you know you sent it then you are probably not part of the problem. That doesn't mean I don't have multiple clips with no ifnormation.
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Postby =DarKNesS= » Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:10 pm

Here's a question: Can I still send clips? Cuz I have a few more ideas, and I really wanted to add some new stuff to my entries :P
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Postby Deuce Loosely » Mon May 21, 2007 7:10 am

Anyone who wants to send in ideas and more clips, feel free to do so. Since this thing never did happen at Tekko, and Otakon is coming up, I was thinking about putting this together as a collaboration piece and submitting it to that and perhaps certain other cons as a "fan-produced" video. I'd like this to be shown as a trailer of sorts before, say, the parodies or whatever. As soon as I have something put together (unless Illia Sadri has a finished version she can upload here or something), I'll provide a link and have you all preview it so you can send feedback and let me know what you think could be done differently. As it stands so far, I have eight minutes completed with more on the way (not to mention the closing credits)

All information pertaining to your video / audio sources is necessary if we are to complete something to represent the months of effort we all put into this.

And yes, the name of the project will likely have to do away with the TekkoshoCon element for the aforementioned purposes. Yes, it sucks about how everything happened, but things happen and there's little to nothing you can do. I'd really like to make this up to you all somehow, so if you'd like to drag this out for another few weeks, please send your submissions (AVI preferred) with the relevant info to my gmail address on the initial post.

I, for one, would sincerely like to try again for next year's TekkoshoCon with a new batch of videos. That is if Illia Sadri is willing as well?

I'd like everyone who reads this to weigh in on this matter. Thanks in advance...
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Postby =DarKNesS= » Mon May 21, 2007 5:20 pm

Anyone who wants to send in ideas and more clips, feel free to do so

I have one new submittion, so I gonna upload it soon.

And yes, the name of the project will likely have to do away with the TekkoshoCon element for the aforementioned purposes.

Does this mean that my opening is not valid anymore? Cuz its says "TekkoshoCon Edition" in the end... And "TekkoshoCon Presents" in the beginning... I can change it to something else, but will you still use it?

I, for one, would sincerely like to try again for next year's TekkoshoCon with a new batch of videos.

You can already count me in. I have a few more ideas for the future project and I bet that by the next year I'll have a lot more.

Since this thing never did happen at Tekko, and Otakon is coming up, I was thinking about putting this together as a collaboration piece and submitting it to that and perhaps certain other cons as a "fan-produced" video.

I think that's a great idea. We didn't have a chance to really show this project on TekkoshoCon, so submitting it to Otakon sounds perfect. This can definitely win as the best comedy! :wink:
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Postby Dezbo21 » Mon May 21, 2007 5:28 pm

Since this thing never did happen at Tekko, and Otakon is coming up, I was thinking about putting this together as a collaboration piece and submitting it to that and perhaps certain other cons as a "fan-produced" video.

I think that's a great idea. We didn't have a chance to really show this project on TekkoshoCon, so submitting it to Otakon sounds perfect. This can definitely win as the best comedy! :wink:



I think you'd have to talk this over with Jim Westbrook and the Otakon staff first, I've already submitted my own personal video for the AMV contest, and I know that there is a rule about participating on more than one video. I'm not sure if this also applies to the Fan-Produced videos, but I really don't want anything technical disqualifying me this year.

If there is a conflict, you may have to remove my clips, if not, I'd be super excited to see it at Otakon as well. The Fan Produced videos and AMV screenings are my absolute favorite.
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Postby Deuce Loosely » Mon May 21, 2007 5:32 pm

Does this mean that my opening is not valid anymore? Cuz its says "TekkoshoCon Edition" in the end... And "TekkoshoCon Presents" in the beginning... I can change it to something else, but will you still use it?


Yuppers. I will use practically anything you send in.

This can definitely win as the best comedy! Wink


Well, actually...no. This would be a non-competing video as it will far exceed the six-minute time limit set by the AMV people at Otakon. It should at least be able to run in the "fan-produced" video block, but I want to shoot for a trailer position before the nightly parodies. We shall see...

I think you'd have to talk this over with Jim Westbrook and the Otakon staff first


*nodnod* Will do. If this somehow goesn't make it by Otakon, then I'll try for NekoCon in November. Submission deadline notwithstanding, I think there shouldn't be a problem as long as everyone gets their information in with their clips. ;)
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Postby Deuce Loosely » Tue May 22, 2007 6:52 am

Okay, here's the deal.

Dezbo21: since you only submitted one video into the AMV contest and you only have clips in the compilation which is not in any competition, there shouldn't be a problem with your submission being disqualified because of this. I'm waiting for an official answer, but that's the word I'm getting.

The deadline for submitting this to Otakon as a fan-produced project is 11:59pm June 10, and that's by SNAIL MAIL (no FTP for fan videos - boo!). That means if you have any more clips ready, get them in ASAP. I'll be working on things like closing credits and such as I piece this together.

The bottom line is I need to have something done and in the mail no later than June 7 if this is to work out at all. There's still a fair amount of work which needs to be done on what I have now, as well.

Let's make this happen, okies?
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Postby =DarKNesS= » Thu May 31, 2007 7:04 am

Just upoaded my new creation to the F T P, you can check it out if you want.
Now, deuceloosely, I need to hear strict orders, what do I need to change in the AMV Hell 3.14 opening? It says TekkoshoCon in the beginning and in the end. Please tell me what should I exchange it for because I'm not in charge of those things. And if you want it to leave it as it is, well, less work for me :P
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Postby Deuce Loosely » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:39 am

=DarKNesS= wrote:Just upoaded my new creation to the F T P, you can check it out if you want.
Now, deuceloosely, I need to hear strict orders, what do I need to change in the AMV Hell 3.14 opening? It says TekkoshoCon in the beginning and in the end. Please tell me what should I exchange it for because I'm not in charge of those things. And if you want it to leave it as it is, well, less work for me :P


All that really needs done is removing the Tekko Edition part. Otherwise, I'd like to keep it as is. I'll also need the sound source you used for it since I'm in the process of building the end credits (nothing too fancy; just scrolling up with regular font face, white on black, perhaps with the production tags playing off to the side in a box). So far, things look good. The total running time will be just under 20 minutes, which should be plenty for a fan-produced collaboration.

Keep an eye out for a new AMV Hell thread, as I'll post further details here soon. ;)
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Postby =DarKNesS= » Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:38 pm

I'm really glad that we're actually doing it. 20 minutes is just enough for a normal fan made AMV Hell. I hope we won't end up doing nothing like last time :?
Now, about the Tekko thingy. I can just replace it in the end with something like Deuceloosely (c), instead of TekkoshoCon (c). And in the beginning, I'll change it to how it originally was when I first made it, "Deuceloosely Presents", if you remember. I think that will fix the problem. You see, removing the whole things will be a bit troublesome, because I'll also have to cut a part of the sound and I don't really wanna do that. So, if "Deuceloosely Presents" in the beginning and Deuceloosely (c) insted of TekkoshoCon (c) in the end is ok, I'll do it.
Oh yeah, the sound source I used was "Final Fantasy VIII - Opening Theme".
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Postby Deuce Loosely » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:24 pm

DarkNesS:
Go ahead with the changes. I'll have to run a final render by Tuesday night in order to send the disc in Wednesday morning. I think I may send it USPS Priority to be safe.

EVERYONE ELSE!
If I don't have your clip info on the Wikispace page (link is on top of the first post) or in my gmail, I will be PM-ing you for a speedy reply. I MUST get the end credits done by Tuesday night.

I REALLY need:
* the author of the clip which used Fullmetal Alchemist and a Freddy Got Fingered sound bit ("...he's a CHILD molester!").
* the anime used by EvilNickJr to Josh Groban's "I'm a Gangsta" reference it at www.you tube.com/watch?v=fKqaw9A2r84 - remove the space in the URL).
* maru-sha: the sound source for "Ranma's Ordeal."


Otakon or bust, people!
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Postby =DarKNesS= » Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:54 am

* the author of the clip which used Fullmetal Alchemist and a Freddy Got Fingered sound bit ("...he's a CHILD molester!").

That's mine :roll:

And yeah, I'm already on it, I'm changing the opening like I mentioned before.
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Postby =DarKNesS= » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:52 am

Ok, I just uploaded the remake of the opening to "stupidlycomplicated". I'm waiting for your approval deuceloosely.
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