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Re: Nightwish: Dark Desires (Audio Mixxing in Progress)

Postby FoxJones » Tue May 24, 2005 8:42 am

LCY84 wrote:Anyway, maybe i will be interesting, depending on the final audio mix.

haha.. that'll cut out LCY84 then..


Currently working on audiomix 2nd version and I don't see how I can make it much better. I remind again that I'm also still green in this field of editing. I'll write lenghty post about it when I get some kind of 2nd version done.

OtakuForLife:
End of All Hope is currently cut out and there's very little left of Crimson Tide Deep Blue Sea so it could be considered cut out too.
Added Sleeping Sun and Lappi(Lapland). Though since I'll take Sleeping Sun and you said you were interested in the credits track.. *shrug* Update info if you feel like it.

Song order will most likely stay in its' current form.
the Kinslayer, 10th Man Down, Moondance (instrumental), Over the Hills, Wanderlust, Astral Romance, Fantasmic, Dead Gardens, Wishmaster, Wish I Had an Angel, Ever Dream, She is my Sin, Nemo, Sleeping Sun, Dark Chest of Wonders (instrumental), Bless the Child and Lappi (credits).

What I'd want to know is that do you guys want more fully instrumental tracks?
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Postby OtakuForLife » Tue May 24, 2005 4:40 pm

I know your new at audio editing, I figured I'd post a little joke there :)
Non-lyric numbers are cool, however I always like the lyrical
elements to come first. As long as the audio is even and blanced
sounding people will like it. I'd have to hear the new mix to tell you more...
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Postby OtakuForLife » Thu May 26, 2005 10:17 am

Hay fox how's it going with the audio?
Remember when it's done to send me a timecode
with the ends and begining of each song. It'll probally be easier
for you to do it on your end. Becuase the mix is in peices in
front of you. If you don't want constuct a timecode I can go through
it and make one it'll just take longer.
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Postby FoxJones » Thu May 26, 2005 12:56 pm

Funny you should ask..
..I just got something out of the grinder.

http://fjc.no-ip.org/nwfoxmixv2lq.mp3

I made changes, but don't really know if they are for the better or for the worse. Now.. to get some feedback I'll give you something to work on with:

My thoughts - Transitions/Changes/Stuff..
Kinslayer -> 10th Man down ("ok")
10th Man Down -> Moondance (fast transition, but I think it works.. good)
Moondance -> Over the Hills (long transititon which I like. good)
Over the Hills -> Wanderlust (Made it shorter now.. "ok")
Wanderlust -> Astral Romance (Very fast transition that I like a lot. Nice IMHO)
Astral Romance -> Fantasmix (Good idea, average realization)
Fantasmix -> Dead Gardens (gah.. headache)
Dead Gardens -> Wishmaster (Took new approach on this. Dunno if this version is any better)
Wishmaster -> Wish I had an Angel (One of my favourites.. I liked playing with that soundeffect)
Wish I Had an Angel -> Ever Dream ("ok")
Ever Dream -> She is My Sin (Good idea, bad realization -_- darn)
She is My Sin -> Nemo (Another hard one. "ok")
Nemo -> Sleeping Sun (ok)
Sleeping Sun -> Dark Chest of Wonders (Good fast drum transition)
Dark Chest of Wonders -> Bless the Child (headache.. Made it much shorter, though this version still feels off)
Bless the Child -> Lappi (fade out to credits.. too soon? too late?)


OtakuForLife: I'll give you the timecodes when the audiomix is deemed "finished". Let's hear if anyone else has something to say about it. Might have to shorten some parts, though I'd rather not since I like it this way sectionlenghtwise.
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Postby OtakuForLife » Thu May 26, 2005 2:36 pm

At a glance

The +'s
The middle and ending tracks meshed together better.
Opening sounded better.
Some of the transitions we're almost invisable.
The flow was much better in regards to wishmaster.

The -'s
The phades the went on too long in some places
( I think that's pretty much unavoidable)

Wow thats pretty much it :)

4/5 Rating ... I think it'll work , but, people make their own judgement
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Re: Nightwish: Dark Desires (Audio Mixxing in Progress)

Postby bum » Fri May 27, 2005 6:41 am

OtakuForLife wrote:
The Basics:
(Getting these down before anything happens)
Sources: use only DVD or HQ rips
Formats: 720x480 Huffy (16:9,4:3) - Ether is fine (black bars)
The No's: No Hentai/ No NGE/ No DBZ.
General Theme: Thoughts, Desires, living .etc

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Little problem. PAL dvd footage is 720x576 @ 25fps. I'l probably have to squish the horizontal res a bit, which may make things look a bit buggered. Also, I may encounter some quality issues if the fps is 29.97 or some other wierd NTSC fps. May I sujest 24?
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Postby OtakuForLife » Fri May 27, 2005 10:34 am

yeah, I guess it won't make too much of a difference at 24
since anime footage is usally 24 anyway. Dose anyone else
have the same problem?

How about some comments on the audio bum... :)
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Postby bum » Fri May 27, 2005 10:53 am

OtakuForLife wrote:How about some comments on the audio bum... :)


14 megs over a 33.6k conection? Think I'l wait till the final mix :P . Oh yeah, ya dont mind if I mail you my entry on a dvd do ya?
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Postby OtakuForLife » Fri May 27, 2005 11:09 am

That sucks .. Sure, you can snail mail me your huffy when it's done.
Just send me a ORG Message and I'll send you the address.
Obviouslly I'll still need to approve the beta first.
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Postby OtakuForLife » Sun May 29, 2005 10:11 am

Ok, I expect after memorial day to hear something about the mix...
People are probally still on vaction.
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Postby Kristyrat » Sun May 29, 2005 10:39 am

Well, I definately think this version is an improvement, transitions are much better, seem to flow more nicely. As of right now, I don't think there's much I would change, a couple trans felt a tad long, but as you said Otaku, it's pretty much unavoidable. So overall, I think it's good, definately something we can work with anyway
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Postby OtakuForLife » Mon May 30, 2005 10:50 am

one thing thats been bothering me

Kinslayer -> 10th Man down ("ok")
-- all you need to do to blend this is don't fade out but connect it after
the dada dada dum then cut to "Da Daaa Da Daaa"

Cut directly from 00;01;37;24 to 00:01:41/42 apx (I hope this makes sense)
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Postby SuperFusion » Mon May 30, 2005 1:38 pm

i think the opening sequence needs work..it just sounds bad when the song came in so sudenly
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Postby OtakuForLife » Mon May 30, 2005 5:01 pm

I tryed to remix it better and had no real effect I think it's done :)
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Postby SuperFusion » Mon May 30, 2005 8:14 pm

Can we hear the final result? Also..Are you going to cut the segments for us or do we have to do that? I think you cutting the segments would be the better idea.. :O
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