A Very Cascada Christmas : [Compiling]

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Re: A Very Cascada Christmas : [Beta Deadline 12/18]

Postby CodeZTM » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:54 pm

Haha, it's fine. You've already hit the beta deadline, so you've still got time to make changes. No worries. ;)
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Re: A Very Cascada Christmas : [Beta Deadline 12/18]

Postby TritioAFB » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:17 pm

News: All the points you mentioned were fixed, excepting the first one. Since I lack of scenes and trust me, the only remaining scenes are talking moments :(

And the beta will be available in 15 minutes (if my internet conection leaves it get completed)
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Re: A Very Cascada Christmas : [Beta Deadline 12/18]

Postby TritioAFB » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:22 pm

Ok new beta in the spreadsheet
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Re: A Very Cascada Christmas : [Beta Deadline 12/18]

Postby Tenshi no Ikari » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:25 pm

So it turns out I decided to take a break from homework for the night. Silly English papers can wait until tomorrow.

Working on the beta, should be updated soon.
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Re: A Very Cascada Christmas : [Beta Deadline 12/18]

Postby Tenshi no Ikari » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:28 am

Beta Update on the Spreadsheet.

0:04 - I think your black fade/scene change here is a bit offtimed. Like it's a little late?

0:12 - The slides are on time...but they feel kinda awkward. I'm not sure if it's because the blur is quite strong or because the direction of the slide and the direction of movement in the scene itself doesn't blend well together.

0:14 - The three consecutive scenes here with the temple sky and the book then the burning is kinda quick, making the pacing a little weird and screwing up the flow.

0:19ish - I think you were synching to the lyrics? If so, you missed the one between "my" and "heart".

For the next part (0:21-0:25) it feels very off because it seems to be a mix of lyric sync and beat sync at the same time. Like sometimes the beats are perfect but then there's one or two scenes that are too quick and not timed to the beat..? Kinda messes with the flow a little.

0:28 - Should probably remove the lipflap. Or make it lipsync. I would have kinda preferred it if it was a crying scene though. XD For the lyric sync.


0:04 - Thanks for pointing that out, fixed.

0:12 - Shortened up the length of the blur in order to provide smoother transitions.

0:14 - As these scenes seem to have been a problem from the beginning, I tore them out and replaced them with some another solid scene. I'll probably just add some sort of bumping effect to hit the beats.

0:19ish - There is no lyric between 'my' and 'heart', and I have scenes for both of those.

0:21-0:25 The scenes changing with the lyrics was my intention. Added some quick fade, and it seems like whether you sync to the beat or the lyrics is a personal choice.

0:28 - Edited out the lipflap (with what is apparently a terrible quality mask). I'll be getting a high def image for that part in my final. So don't tell me to fix it. Also, she does have a really good crying scene in her arc. I just don't remember which episode. Also, if the lyrics are 'to save me from tears', then she wouldn't be crying, because she is saving herself from crying. /end in depth analysis of a second long scene.

Edit: I kind of failed at masking around 0:27, I'll be fixing that too.
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Re: A Very Cascada Christmas : [Beta Deadline 12/18]

Postby Hitori » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:26 pm

@Code- Good job with the your beta! :up:

@TritioAFB- Nice work with what you've done! :up:

@Tenshi- Aside from what you're going to fix, good job so far! :up:

@Everyone- Spreadsheet updated with my current Beta. :09-:10 should I mask the lip flapping? Let me know if there is anything more to edit/change/remove/add. :up:
Also, how is everyone else doing on the other tracks?
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Re: A Very Cascada Christmas : [Beta Deadline 12/18]

Postby AimoAio » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:45 pm

Hitori:
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I would remove the lipflap at 0:09/10. 0:20 I like the zoom sync to the music but it looks weird for the Ryuji scene. It's a nice effect but it doesn't quite work as effectively for the motion scenes compared with the static scenes. About the scene at 0:22, I know the borders were part of the show but any chances you could try and remove it? 0:35-end: the zooms...I would highly recommend you get rid of them. They are way too fast for the pacing of an ending and it was pretty enough before without them. Everything else looks good to me. :up:


Tritio:
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CodeZTM wrote:1) Watermark at :13. Speaking of which, I feel like something else might fit better here. It's a cute mask/transitions, but I just feel like something else could go there that's more in line with the story that you were telling.
I don't think the mask fits very well either. Your flash at 0:06 was kinda sharp, you should make it longer and smoother so it flows better into the next scene. The memory/flashback sequence was nice but it felt a little still, so you could try adding some light camera movements to them? Same for the ones at 0:13-end. Otherwise it's pretty nice so far. ^^


Tenshi:
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Nice changes you made. :up: At 0:19 what I meant was you had a different scene for "I" "gave" and "you" but then "my" and "heart" was just the one scene? So it kind of ruined the sync a little. I can see what you're synching at 0:24 now but it's really really fast and if you asked me, I prefer the original version for that part. :sweat: I also don't really like the slide in blur mask transition at the end, the one at the beginning was ok but this one doesn't quite work as well. Everything else is great though. :mrgreen:


Code:
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Oo this is pretty sweet. Most of your crossfades feel really sharp though, so you might want to either lengthen them out more or shorten them so they're not as noticeable. Might also want to consider adding some more camera movement to the stiller scenes since it feels sorta slow. Also the one at 0:38 is showing a bit of border to the right. :P
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Re: A Very Cascada Christmas : [Beta Deadline 12/18]

Postby Hitori » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:37 am

AimoAio wrote:Hitori:
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I would remove the lipflap at 0:09/10. 0:20 I like the zoom sync to the music but it looks weird for the Ryuji scene. It's a nice effect but it doesn't quite work as effectively for the motion scenes compared with the static scenes. About the scene at 0:22, I know the borders were part of the show but any chances you could try and remove it? 0:35-end: the zooms...I would highly recommend you get rid of them. They are way too fast for the pacing of an ending and it was pretty enough before without them. Everything else looks good to me. :up:
Thanks for the input Aimo! Waiting on other feedback but I do have other ideas I want to throw at it.
As for the zooms at the end, I did time them to the sound of the piano keys. Maybe I can keep the final one? :roll: Or maybe I could fade them to black? Change the zoom distance so it doesn't move so fast? Removing the zoom effect will make them regular straight cuts instead. Have any ideas I should look into for them? :awesome:
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Re: A Very Cascada Christmas : [Beta Deadline 12/18]

Postby CodeZTM » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:12 am

Hitori, I apologize, but I've been trying to download your file for a while now, but it never gets past 1%. Could you provide a mediafire or sendspace link for the moment? I'm not sure why my house/work hates your website so much. XD

EDIT: My new beta is up on the spreadsheet.
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Re: A Very Cascada Christmas : [Beta Deadline 12/18]

Postby Hitori » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:54 am

That's weird... I replaced it with a mediafire link.
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Re: A Very Cascada Christmas : [Beta Deadline 12/18]

Postby CodeZTM » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:19 am

Yay! I got to watch it! ;3

I agree on aimo about pretty much everything except: 1) I don't necessarily hate the zooms at the end, but I just don't like the very last one before the video ends. 2 )I'm also ok with the scene at :22 personally, but maybe you could find a different scene all together?

Oh your lip sync was good. My fears have been alleviated. XD
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Re: A Very Cascada Christmas : [Beta Deadline 12/18]

Postby TritioAFB » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:07 pm

Hitori: While I felt something strange the first time I watched your track, I guess I was wrong since your track includes lyrics. Personally I like the way you decide to keep the story.

Now about second 22, Is there your editing or the scene is like that in the anime? Haven't watched the anime. Looks weird since it makes me think like the rest will be with those borders, but the simple thing there is to get another scene with Taiga and without those borders and there you are, after all your story is easy to follow and that will be good.

About the zooms, I don't think they are necessary in the end, after with your track the MEP ends, it will be ok if there's another track following you, but just my opinion buddy ;)

Code: OMG! You used that anime (which I don't remember its name) I used 3 years ago. Shame on me for not remembering it :(

Ok, the story is easy to follow too, but for unknown reasons, I felt it slow after 0:37
The previous seconds are ok and the text is looking good. Unless Aimo comes and finds another one for the MEP ;)

Don't forget something my friend: I'm the editor next to you and my part is upbeat, supposing that this the final, it will be very weird that the video is slow at certain point and suddenly gets upbeat, in my opinion. Also for transitioning purposes think about the final scene of your track
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Re: A Very Cascada Christmas : [Beta Deadline 12/18]

Postby [madaraxD] » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:28 pm

tomorrow is my last day of school so I will start working on my part when i am back from school :D
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Re: A Very Cascada Christmas : [Beta Deadline 12/18]

Postby Hitori » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:11 am

Alrighty! So the lip syncing is good to stay? :awesome:

Also, for all the other input, I'll make the appropriate changes! :up:
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Re: A Very Cascada Christmas : [Beta Deadline 12/18]

Postby AimoAio » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:44 pm

Code: I like the new zooming/panning. I'm still kinda on the fence about the crossfades though, I'm not sure what it is exactly about them that bothers me but for some reason they still feel too sharp to me. Did you do anything with the blending mode? The star/glowy thing at 0:24 comes in a little late for the music so just move it a few frames up. I also think a nice black fade out would work here too. And also a fade out for 0:38 because otherwise it feels strange to see her still, then walking, then still and then she starts walking again.

Also I'm thinking the scenes at around 0:18 are ones of him reminiscing his childhood? If so, you might want to change the child scene a little bit so it stands out a bit more as a memory/flashback because the colouring in the 2 scenes of him grownup and as a child are really really similar.

Otherwise everything else is great. :up:
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