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Re: The Fame Monster - Full beta deadline due 29th January

Post by AimoAio » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:01 am

Taite wrote: I'll disagree with Aimo then and say that the pacing in your first beta was fine XD It doesn't need to match the piano bit or anything. What you had in the first beta gave it a cinematic feel. I think the addition of the black and white 'flashes' makes it look choppy and, though not extremely oversynced, just unnecessary. Plus the color correction you had on those clips in your first beta made it look very nice.
I'll agree with this.
Taite wrote:Ahhh, I loved that pic you got for me, why the hell couldn't I find it? Oh well, thank you =p

And seriously, the credits are great. I've seen a lot of crappy credits from people who claim to spend hours on end in AE making them, and this is very well done. Not a fan of credits usually, but this was good. (: No suggestions to make.
Thanks. :D I had to cut out George and the background so that's why some of the blue lighting is still visible in her hair. :uhoh: Not sure how much of it I can fix but I'll try. :)
Rider4Z wrote:THOSE CREDITS ARE HAWT!!!! i see you found your own picture of Grell to use. that's fine with me, it's a great pic :up:
Thank you! :3 I thought since I was on minitokyo anyway I might as well do a search on Grell and this scan came up in the first page. XD
CodeZTM wrote:Finally sent in my final. :3
Got it and now confirmed it plays. That's 3 finals in now. :up:
Pockying wrote:Woahh, I absolutely love the credits <3 they're beautiful ;_;
Thanks! :mrgreen: and great job with your beta btw. If you can send me one more beta after those changes I mentioned I think it'll be ready for a final. ^^

Once I get a full beta from AyumiNeko, Niwa, Elerye and Taite I'll send out a beta compilation. :) But since these tracks are about 50-80% complete already, it probably won't take too long. ^^ It's looking pretty good so far too, good job everyone. :up:

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Re: The Fame Monster - Full beta deadline due 29th January

Post by Taite » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:52 pm

AimoAio wrote: Thanks. :D I had to cut out George and the background so that's why some of the blue lighting is still visible in her hair. :uhoh: Not sure how much of it I can fix but I'll try. :)
I didn't even notice it o:

Once I get a full beta from AyumiNeko, Niwa, Elerye and Taite I'll send out a beta compilation. :) But since these tracks are about 50-80% complete already, it probably won't take too long. ^^ It's looking pretty good so far too, good job everyone. :up:
Will likely have a full beta in by this weekend sometime. Have a 3 day weekend, so I have time to kill.
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Re: The Fame Monster - Full beta deadline due 29th January

Post by AimoAio » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:36 am

Taite wrote:Will likely have a full beta in by this weekend sometime. Have a 3 day weekend, so I have time to kill.
Awesome! :up:

Angel's sent me her final too so now that makes 4! :D

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Re: The Fame Monster - Full beta deadline due 29th January

Post by Kamih » Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:48 pm

AimoAio wrote:
Taite wrote: I'll disagree with Aimo then and say that the pacing in your first beta was fine XD It doesn't need to match the piano bit or anything. What you had in the first beta gave it a cinematic feel. I think the addition of the black and white 'flashes' makes it look choppy and, though not extremely oversynced, just unnecessary. Plus the color correction you had on those clips in your first beta made it look very nice.
I'll agree with this.
like i told ya in the text already, ... you agree with taite for disagreeing yourself in agreeing again ?! xD ... le WHAT?! LOL
Taite wrote: I'll disagree with Aimo then and say that the pacing in your first beta was fine XD It doesn't need to match the piano bit or anything. What you had in the first beta gave it a cinematic feel. I think the addition of the black and white 'flashes' makes it look choppy and, though not extremely oversynced, just unnecessary. Plus the color correction you had on those clips in your first beta made it look very nice.
I agree with your decision on :37 though, I think it looks alright. Perhaps make the glow/blur on the scene of him sitting down come in earlier though, that might help (:
And oh ok cool (@:33)

and hahaha if you disagree that's totally fine, it's your track. If someone told me something that I disagreed with, I'd do the same thing too (: Do whatever you think looks best, and I'll just be here to give you an outsider's perspective.
LOL it's okay :3 i am glad to get feedback, since i am a noob if it comes to editing animes -shot-

i made the coloruing from scratch again e___e since i dumped it and only saved a part, .... iunno if it's the same because i deleted all my previous betas like a boss 8D (e_____e) , but it is back nevertheless xD
also i hope this will be my final beta then 8D -cough-

EDIT// Beta sent 8D -hurrhurr-
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Re: The Fame Monster - Full beta deadline due 29th January

Post by Taite » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:38 pm

Sent replies to lloyd and Kamih via pm, and I'm downloading and will get you your crit, Pockying, soon. (:

Sent out my complete track as well.
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Re: The Fame Monster - Full beta deadline due 29th January

Post by lloyd9988 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:45 pm

Taite:
Spoiler :
*_* :up: It looks Amazing! Some personal editing preferences on my side but it looks amazingly awesome. Great job Taite! :D

*Personal Editing Preference* 0:32: It would be nicer if the scenes were changed from Day to Night so they follow the coloring of the scenes after that scene. Doesn't have to be done and it'll still look amazing without it :P

*Another Personal Editing Preference* 0:35 - 0:36: With the moon and the boy and girl, you could time the opacity to go from 100% - 50% or 35% from beginning to end so that'll kind of give it a bit more feel to it with the piano. Again, doesn't have to be done and still looks amazing without but it may help. Yet, overall, this is definitely ready for a final :up:
Kamih:
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I'm still trying to figure out how you did that awesome editing xD My only real complaint is the seconds near the ending where the girl sheds a tear sideways. *Personal Editing Preference* Its out of synch with the piano and it could be better synched with the piano. If you want to keep it as is, that's cool too. You still did an amazing job with your part and is completely ready for a final. :D
Overall, the timing between you two is going to work perfectly!

Pockying:
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Had to take a second look at it to give an opinion. Honestly, everything looks good except the ending because I just don't like the ending :P Other than the ending, you make your part look amazing! :P

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Re: The Fame Monster - Full beta deadline due 29th January

Post by Taite » Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:44 pm

lloyd9988 wrote:Taite:
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*_* :up: It looks Amazing! Some personal editing preferences on my side but it looks amazingly awesome. Great job Taite! :D

*Personal Editing Preference* 0:32: It would be nicer if the scenes were changed from Day to Night so they follow the coloring of the scenes after that scene. Doesn't have to be done and it'll still look amazing without it :P

*Another Personal Editing Preference* 0:35 - 0:36: With the moon and the boy and girl, you could time the opacity to go from 100% - 50% or 35% from beginning to end so that'll kind of give it a bit more feel to it with the piano. Again, doesn't have to be done and still looks amazing without but it may help. Yet, overall, this is definitely ready for a final :up:
Yeah, I wish I could change :32 to night as well ): Unfortunately, that'd take a lot of manipulation that isn't quite possible in Vegas, at least if you want it to look nice. I actually ran out of scenes, surprisingly, that would fit this part well, which is why there's the bad transition from day to night. However, I'm thinking about changing the moon scene to either a shot of the day or sunset. I'll see what I can manage here :p

As for the second part, you think I shouldn't fade out the boy and girl completely? Watching that part over again, it fades out completely with the note that is being played, so I'm not sure what you mean by it will match the piano better o:

Thanks for the crit (:
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Re: The Fame Monster - Full beta deadline due 29th January

Post by Kamih » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:44 pm

lloyd9988 wrote: Kamih:
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I'm still trying to figure out how you did that awesome editing xD My only real complaint is the seconds near the ending where the girl sheds a tear sideways. *Personal Editing Preference* Its out of synch with the piano and it could be better synched with the piano. If you want to keep it as is, that's cool too. You still did an amazing job with your part and is completely ready for a final. :D
roflmao, you really think that was awesome editing? lololol... my confidence is a big mess so everything i do is like rubbish e____e especially for amv, since i edit with games more LOL
but i want to learn and to improve making amv's so yeah here i am 8D -shoots myself-

and thanks alot for your advise ... i didn't got that until you pointed it out :D *fixed it already* ;)
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Re: The Fame Monster - Full beta deadline due 29th January

Post by AimoAio » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:00 pm

lloyd9988 wrote:Taite:
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*Personal Editing Preference* 0:32: It would be nicer if the scenes were changed from Day to Night so they follow the coloring of the scenes after that scene. Doesn't have to be done and it'll still look amazing without it :P
This would be nice.
Taite wrote: Yeah, I wish I could change :32 to night as well ): Unfortunately, that'd take a lot of manipulation that isn't quite possible in Vegas, at least if you want it to look nice. I actually ran out of scenes, surprisingly, that would fit this part well, which is why there's the bad transition from day to night. However, I'm thinking about changing the moon scene to either a shot of the day or sunset. I'll see what I can manage here :p
But this will also work. :) Also make a black fade in at 0:39, maybe just 1 or 2 frames long so the sync is more noticeable but also smoother. Aside from those I don't really see any other changes needed since it looks perfect already. :up: So just send me the final when you're happy. ^^

Kamih: :twisted: JK, it's only small changes.
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Me no likey the flare thing at 0:08 D: It looked good before without it at all. Also you missed a lot of beats at 0:10...not entirely sure whether that was intentional or not. If it is, please go back and add more Hotsuma scenes for ze sync. If it's uh..for artistic purposes, then apply the cutter effect from the previous scene on it aswell so the AR looks the same and that should pass. :3 Fade in the scene at 0:12 earlier. (just start fading in before the text disappears) use a crossfade instead of a hardcut at 0:18. Fade out to black at the end of the shifting glass at 0:24 and black fade in the scene after it.(so instead of a crossfade) Scene at 0:31 make it longer so there isn't such a big black part. And fade in 0:32 earlier so it's synced to "you". Make the crossfade at 0:36 shorter(just 1-2 frames) so by the time "less" is sung it should have already transitioned. And also make the flash at 0:37 brighter/stronger so it's more prominent for the beat.
But zomg, pretty part is pretty. ;__; It's so beautiful and the ending is just gorgeous. <3 Good job you. :up:

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Kamih wrote: like i told ya in the text already, ... you agree with taite for disagreeing yourself in agreeing again ?! xD ... le WHAT?! LOL
YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH IT?!?! XDDD

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Re: The Fame Monster - Full beta deadline due 29th January

Post by lloyd9988 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:34 pm

Taite wrote:As for the second part, you think I shouldn't fade out the boy and girl completely? Watching that part over again, it fades out completely with the note that is being played, so I'm not sure what you mean by it will match the piano better o:

Thanks for the crit (:
Lol np :P

Also, its kind of a fade out that can be completely dark with the moon and the couple before the next scene rather than have the cell phone fade in after the moon, i.e. fade out both the moon and the couple at the same time to either completely dark or close to it and do a hard cut on the cell phone. But, personally, I wouldn't mess with it because it looks good as is. :up:

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