NO EXCUSES I SAID!

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NO EXCUSES I SAID!

Postby mirkosp » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:16 pm

Four years ago Douggie had an idea for a MEP.
Two years ago that MEP was done.
It was based on a flowchart.

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Today, I ask you: do you think we're ready for a take two?

Honestly, the idea was just too good and intriguing to let it go like that. The MEP turned out in a half disappointment for me and others too, because the rules weren't actually strict enough when it came down to what was being laid down on the timeline.

So I ask you, do you guys think we should give it another try? If so, how should we change the rules to fix what wrong was done with the first attempt?

Thinking about it, I should probably try to contact Douggie, since he would have some suggestions about this... but if I'm the only one that would like to try again with this, then it's not even worth bothering him.

So first, let's see who would be in...
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Re: NO EXCUSES I SAID!

Postby CodeZTM » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:23 pm

I'd be in!
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Re: NO EXCUSES I SAID!

Postby Cenit » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:42 pm

Sure. Once again i would be left with no excuses to not join.
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Re: NO EXCUSES I SAID!

Postby Warlike Swans » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:21 pm

Awesome flowchart. I'm game.
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Re: NO EXCUSES I SAID!

Postby ngsilver » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:55 pm

No excuse to not do another Sailor Moon clip :D
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Re: NO EXCUSES I SAID!

Postby Hitori » Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:30 am

Liek! :shark:
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Re: NO EXCUSES I SAID!

Postby ibabrak » Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:41 am

I would be in my lord. |:>
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Re: NO EXCUSES I SAID!

Postby NS » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:53 am

Of course I'm down. Sign me up.
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Re: NO EXCUSES I SAID!

Postby ngsilver » Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:30 am

My only issue here really is that perhaps the 1 clip thing should be defined more. Essentially, last time I used one scene and did some editing to it (jump cuts) which wasn't allowed. So yeah, just a better definition of what 1 scene means and what editing you are allowed to do with the clip.
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Re: NO EXCUSES I SAID!

Postby mirkosp » Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:19 pm

Aside from that, I was thinking more about how to decide which clips are NG based on something more than just technical requirements. Thing is, the finished video didn't turn out quite as cool as it could have been since some people ruined what was going on before. Whether by just killing the flow or even by trying to be funny in ther wrong way or whatever. In the end it somehow works in a few bits, but it could have been much more amazing if there had been stricter rules.
So I was wondering, should we try to define somewhat what is fine and what isn't based on that too?

Anyway, 8 people interested in just above 12 hours sounds like there would be quite the will to do it again, so I'll be PMing Douggie and hear what he has to say. He had the original idea, so he should have a voice in this.
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Re: NO EXCUSES I SAID!

Postby Eion » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:50 pm

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Re: NO EXCUSES I SAID!

Postby Hitori » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:20 pm

mirkosp wrote:but it could have been much more amazing if there had been stricter rules.
So I was wondering, should we try to define somewhat what is fine and what isn't based on that too?
Rules are good! Having a strict framework for a project will help keep it in line and closer to the originally proposed idea! :up:
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Re: NO EXCUSES I SAID!

Postby Enigma » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:33 pm

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Re: NO EXCUSES I SAID!

Postby mirkosp » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:06 am

Okay, Douggie replied me, so I have a clearer idea of what we should try to do.

Basically, one of the main reasons the project didn't work out very well was that people were mostly only focusing in picking up from the last track and then doing their thing. This meant that it could make the coming tracks harder to pull off properly, so if we want to do this, I think we'll need to:
- Try to comment track by track, deciding together where the project is headed and what should be tried.
- Edit tracks so that not only do they pick up well from what is left, but also set up a good cut for the next track to follow smoothly.
The one thing that probably made the project less of a success in the result, albeit decidedly interesting during the realization, was the "secrecy" of the thing. People weren't allowed to see what was done so far and so on. There was a general lack of feedback, unless people actively seeked for other members to talk about it, so it was harder to get the MEP going in a common direction.

So right now, I would like to hear from you, what do you think we should try to do in order to pull it off better than last time? Should we try to have people vote on whether each track is good or not, or would that be too much? Do you have other ideas?

To wrap up, I was thinking about having people edit every other day. So that means, roughly 24 hours from when the link to the FTP (or whatever I'll be able to set up) is made available to the editor to when the track must be uploaded, then another 24 hours or so for the others to give feedback or whatever, then next editor and so on. Would this routine be fine, or should we consider other timings? More time for editing/feedback or whatever?
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