AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Nekocon 14, here we come!)

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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (FIRST CALL for final submission

Postby Warlike Swans » Mon May 02, 2011 4:09 pm

Of the current options I'd go with the alphabet or the explosions.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (FIRST CALL for final submission

Postby Gaelstrom » Mon May 02, 2011 10:44 pm

Warlike Swans wrote:Of the current options I'd go with the alphabet or the explosions.


Alphabet is one that I don't have an idea for if we did do it, but I also thought it could be a decent one if handled correctly.

They're the ideas I came up with, but I do believe Dalek and Explosion are decent choices. Explosion will be much easier to do, especially with limited time. So if I had to make a choice now, I'd want to move ahead with the explosion idea unless someone could give an example of how we could make other ideas work with good impact. I can even make the audio file for the explosion available for everyone very quickly. We just need a good general explosion, and I think it'll be fun and kind of classical to use something over the top, BUT something with meaning that can have implied meaning whenever used.

For an example, starting with an Evangelion clip and have something like Shinji tripping onto Rei, and as soon as his hand is on her breast it does *click* *BOOOOM* and we show Second Impact. Then every subsequent clip is a play off how easily a simple mistake causes the Second Impact. Like starting with that, then one clip could be a character lights a cigarette or throws the cigarette away nonchalantly and that causes second impact. And then something like a scene with a big race where the protagonist is about to win, show the tape breaking and use the click sound, then second impact. Hell, it could even become a character, someone looks around a corner and his eyes widen and it causes Second Impact.

Those aren't that good, I know, but they're just quick examples to reiterate the basic idea of how the explosion is more than just a sound and visual, it becomes a story how ridiculous shit can cause the explosion. Much like that vid Deuce posted earlier in response to the idea.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (FIRST CALL for final submission

Postby Deuce Loosely » Tue May 03, 2011 1:07 am

Now that I see it clearer I'll put my vote in for the explosions.
Can't really go wrong. ;)
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (FIRST CALL for final submission

Postby moonbunnychan » Tue May 03, 2011 8:52 pm

My laptop power cable died...least I'm hooooping it's just that and not a much more serious problem. If it is, least I have all my salad stuff backed up. (phew).
I wanna see the full thing first, but I have one other clip that would either be awesome for the "AMV Salad 6 coming next year" thing or if not for that just as one more clip from me. Till I figure out what's going on with my laptop though my checking here is gonna be a bit spotty since all I've got is my phone.
But explosions are awesome (plus it's quick and easy to do). There's nothing saying though that the other ideas couldn't make for having one clip each for them, because they're awesome ideas.

Also when you say a panel, do you mean have a panel and not be in the fan parodies, or a separate panel just about the project? Since I kinda feel being in the fan parodies gets the bigger audience. I know AMV Hell had a huge panel last year but they also have more of a massive following.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (FIRST CALL for final submission

Postby Deuce Loosely » Tue May 03, 2011 9:47 pm

It would be a separate panel where we can spotlight the editors that are present with the clips they've contributed in past episodes. Maybe I'd play AMVS4 to get everyone caught up so they can go see 5 at parodies but I haven't heard if it's been accepted or not.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (FIRST CALL for final submission

Postby Angelyco » Tue May 03, 2011 10:04 pm

FINALLY sent you my video, Deuce.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (FIRST CALL for final submission

Postby Gaelstrom » Wed May 04, 2011 3:51 am

Speaking of showing 4, Deuce, can you please attempt to get 3 and 4 to get a re-show again? I know all three probably wouldn't work, but would you please suggest to Scott that showing 4 again would be a good idea, and since 3 didn't get its encore, it should be given its shot?

I know it probably won't work, he doesn't particularly like AMV Hell style stuff, but I REALLY REALLY WANT TO RECORD A REACTION TO AMVS3! ^^ ...and I want another recording of 4 in a big 2000-person room.

Yes, selfish reason.

Anyway, tomorrow I'll get the explosion audio posted for everyone. I'd really like to get into a live chat with people somehow to figure out a good idea.

Based on the idea of second impact, is there another explosion that has meaning like Second Impact? I was thinking the explosion in Code Geass, but that one's meaning is more dark and less grandiose. I'm thinking we need to find a good way to connect the explosion occurrence with something extreme, to the point that it gets more and more ridiculous. It's why all the jokes work where something small causes a nuclear explosion, because a nuclear explosion has meaning and severity, but is also kind of fantastical.

Actually, we could even use the Earth exploding from my clip in AMVS3 with DBZ.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (FIRST CALL for final submission

Postby Deuce Loosely » Wed May 04, 2011 3:54 am

There's also the "Bombshell" explosion at the end of AMVS2. ;)
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (FIRST CALL for final submission

Postby Gaelstrom » Wed May 04, 2011 2:25 pm

Deuce Loosely wrote:There's also the "Bombshell" explosion at the end of AMVS2. ;)


Actually I was thinking of that clip when I said nuclear explosion, but nuclear explosions are overused in this joke to begin with. We can default to it if need be, but even if Second Impact isn't the best idea, I just came up with it at that moment for an example, I'd choose that right now over anything else because it's different. Think about the nuke after 3 or 4 clips. You'd see it coming, and that may be useful as long as we have a clip where seeing it coming is part of the joke. Like someone's about to press a button, and they go 'no, that won't work" and another character presses it instead.

I have more animation work today, but tonight I'll post the audio as soon as I can.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (FIRST CALL for final submission

Postby moonbunnychan » Wed May 04, 2011 7:19 pm

Unrelated to an actual in show explosion, I wanna make an explosion either with the volleyball scene or the penguin knocking over the bucket scene in Azumanga.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (FIRST CALL for final submission

Postby Gaelstrom » Wed May 04, 2011 8:56 pm

Actually Moonbunnychan, that is perfect for the type of stuff I'm thinking of. It may be unrelated, but we can actually make it related by setting up the chosen explosion in the first clip. Your use of Princess Tutu to introduce the Geico Money fit the profile of the Geico Money commercials, random person, random scene, then the money shows up when they look at it in confusion. You matched it, and after that, it had its baseline. All we need is a baseline for the explosion, something minor happening in a more normal environment, like "Wait! Don't touch that wire!" and then the explosion. This is one everyone expects, then use it in places that nobody expects, like the bucket and the volleyball. In fact I laughed out loud just thinking about the penguin in Azumanga. I pictured the scene in total silence, just a shot of the penguin, then Chiyo and Sakaki, then another of the penguin, then them looking on almost bored, then the penguin tipping the bucket with a barely audible *tink* and then a deafening explosion with the second impact.

Stuff like that is what I'm talking about. But we need to seriously try and inject some meaning into it if we can, like choosing an initial scene and explosion that has a fan meaning, like Second Impact is the destruction of humanity, the Sailor Moon explosion i think in one of the movies where darkness spreads across a city means that evil is conquering or something, so the clips could all be under the context "If this action is done, it causes second impact" or "If this action is done, evil destroys the city" and just start with something moderately ridiculous and go from there into utter randomness.

I still like the idea of finding shots where someone clicks a button or drops something, and then use the *click* BOOM! If you need to hear the audio, look back in AMVS3 at my Gundam clip.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (FIRST CALL for final submission

Postby Deuce Loosely » Wed May 04, 2011 9:01 pm

I'm also reminded of the "Awesome!" explosion in AMVS4.
The explosion always gets a reaction.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (FIRST CALL for final submission

Postby Gaelstrom » Thu May 05, 2011 3:17 am

Deuce Loosely wrote:I'm also reminded of the "Awesome!" explosion in AMVS4.
The explosion always gets a reaction.


I looked through AMVS4 thinking I was missing something. I don't remember an explosion in AMVS4 ^^
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (FIRST CALL for final submission

Postby Deuce Loosely » Thu May 05, 2011 3:32 am

*doh!*
You're right.
It was your "An Heero" clip from 3.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (FIRST CALL for final submission

Postby Gaelstrom » Thu May 05, 2011 5:19 am

That's the exact audio I'm talking about. It's the same audio from the youtube poop I posted. I'm sorry, I ended up animating much later than I thought tonight, I'll get to the audio now.

davidkrein.net/ClickBoom_SoundEffects.rar

Here's a gift package for you all. It contains the full explosion section extracted from the youtube poop, plus each click individually in case you want it, the explosion individually, as well as some assorted random sound effects I tossed in that I felt could work in potential scenes as a preamble to the explosion if you didn't want the click. I think it'll be a stronger running gag if it's the two sound effects in conjunction, but if you can't think of anything, hopefully those will inspire something.

If you know of a sound effect you'd like to use and have video reference, let me know and I'll be able to extract the audio from just about anything.

I really hope this will work. If anyone has ANY ideas for an explosion that has meaning that is absurd like second impact, please post it. In the meantime, I may even say that Second Impact would be a decent one to go off of. Everyone knows Eva in some form, and even if they hate it, it's still a funny use of an over-the-top thing. But it doesn't read so much as an explosion, and the sound effect is shorter, so something more abrupt is better.
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