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Re: Memories Of A Distant You MEP [We Are Full Up People]

Postby Inan » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:21 pm

sure dont send me the beta or anything >_>
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Re: Memories Of A Distant You MEP [We Are Full Up People]

Postby Taite » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:48 pm

I've got a few things I'm gonna tweak still, but I've got my first beta done. Anyone wanna check it out?
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Re: Memories Of A Distant You MEP [We Are Full Up People]

Postby TwilightChrono » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:51 pm

Taite wrote:I've got a few things I'm gonna tweak still, but I've got my first beta done. Anyone wanna check it out?


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Re: Memories Of A Distant You MEP [We Are Full Up People]

Postby Taite » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:03 am

Sent :P

Will be tweaking the cross-fade at :10, extending the white on the blue clip at :18 so it is a tad longer, trying to remove lip-flap at :22/:23, and tweaking :34 a tad too. Anything else, let me know |:>
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Re: Memories Of A Distant You MEP [We Are Full Up People]

Postby carlyxjack » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:24 am

Taite wrote:You're right, it's only for the final. Definitely not for the betas xD

Right now your source is 1280x720p. I know that just by copying and pasting it while taking a screencap (unless I had it upscaled, though I'm pretty sure). That means it's 720p. A source that is 480p can be 848x480, 720x480, etc. The numbers are the resolution of the video, which you'll hear is called AR, aspect resolution.The p represents progressive, meaning there is no interlacing.
Depending on what we decided, you may have to re-size your video using avisynth to 848x480.

Because you bring that up, I wonder, do you have Sony vegas set up properly? If you usually go to File>Properties, and set it up, then cool. If not, go ahead and read this:
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When you open up Vegas, right click the movie and select properties. A little box will come up. On the first tab that is open (Video Event), there will be something called Undersample rate. Then there will be a scroll box with a number in it, and then there will be another number next to that, something like 24 fps, 23.976 fps, 25 fps, or 29.97 fps. fps, as you may already know, stands for frames per second. You need to make sure it's 29.97fps. If it isn't, say so here and we'll help you fix it. If it is, write it down on a piece of paper.

In the next tab, Media, in the middle of the box, it will say Attributes. There it will say your resolution, which I'm guessing is 1280x720. Don't worry about the number that comes after that (like me, for instance, it says 848x480x24. Don't worry about the 24 or whatever number you have.)

Now, once you know your fps and your AR, close that box, select file, then go down to properties. You need to change all of your settings so it says this:

Template: HDV 720-30p (1280x720, 29.970 fps)
Field Order: None (Progressive Scan)
Width, 1,280
Height: 720
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0000 (square)
Frame Rate: 29.970 (NTSC)
Full-resolution rendering quality: Best
Deinterlace method: None

Everything else you can just leave alone.

Sorry if you feel like I'm treating you like a noobie. Just want to make sure everything in Sony is set up properly, because it makes a huge difference :P


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It's okay , I have to learn,it's not like treating a noobie :D The template size is HDV 720-30p (1280x720; 29,970 fps) ( through file -> properties)
But when I see the the undersample rate from a movie part, it can't be higher than 1,000( 23,976 fps).
I don't understand that :?:
And I am wondering why we have to use avysynth for the size,when sony vegas possibly also have 480 p
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Re: Memories Of A Distant You MEP [We Are Full Up People]

Postby CodeZTM » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:14 am

I wanna see the beta Taite! :D

Also, I thought we were doing 848x480? :uhoh:
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Re: Memories Of A Distant You MEP [We Are Full Up People]

Postby Taite » Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:36 pm

carlyxjack wrote:It's okay , I have to learn,it's not like treating a noobie :D The template size is HDV 720-30p (1280x720; 29,970 fps) ( through file -> properties)
But when I see the the undersample rate from a movie part, it can't be higher than 1,000( 23,976 fps).
I don't understand that :?:
And I am wondering why we have to use avysynth for the size,when sony vegas possibly also have 480 p


Okay, so under the frame-rate: part under file > properties, change it to 23.976 (that will automatically change the template size.)
That means that your video is actually 23.976 frames per second, rather than 29.970. Because this project requires 29.970 you're gonna have to change it. First let me ask, did you rip this from a dvd? If so, you can actually re-save it over the file that you have imported into vegas now, and when we save it over that file (with the exact name) then when you open up vegas, it will open up the new file. That was a terrible description, but I'll go into it step by step if you're wiling to do a tad more work (that is, if you're footage came from a dvd, which it look like it did.)

As for the size, you can't just plug in the 480p into vegas when you have a 720p video. The reason why is that vegas doesn't literally resize the video from 720p to 480p. It just changes what you see on the preview. You need to literally change it's size, otherwise you'll get a weird looking video when you render it.
It's not that hard, really. If you are willing to go ahead with the first part (resaving your movie) we can resize the video at the same time. If not, we can get real messy and change the framerate and AR after you are done exporting your final track.

The typical process is that you'll rip your dvds first, eventually get to avisynth, do some cleaning up of the footage (some filters for quality, resize, crop, etc.) you'll either make a fake-avi, edit the script directly (not possible in vegas, as far as I know) or edit a lagarith version after running it through vdub. You don't usually resize/change frame-rates after you are done making the video. xP

CodeZTM wrote:I wanna see the beta Taite! :D

Also, I thought we were doing 848x480? :uhoh:

Sent :P
And yeah, I think so. Majority rules? :nose:
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Re: Memories Of A Distant You MEP [We Are Full Up People]

Postby Angelyco » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:49 pm

How much of a beta are you expecting this week? I don't know if I'll have a FULL beta, but I'm going to try.
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Re: Memories Of A Distant You MEP [We Are Full Up People]

Postby carlyxjack » Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:01 pm

Wow big description,but sorry I don't rip them from DVD's. :oops: I just download them from [Redacted] and convert them through avysynth in lagareth

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Re: Memories Of A Distant You MEP [We Are Full Up People]

Postby TwilightChrono » Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:32 am

Sorry I haven't been on in a while guys. My poor computer sploded and I just got it fixed. I couldn't be madder. I lost everything. My Editing program, ALL my project files and the *Cry* Finished but never uploaded, due to lack of time and RL issues "Heaven's Faith 2". Seriously, I"m about to cry lol. I put so much work into it. Now I have to re-install everything and start from scratch on a bunch of my projects. I will however be finishing this one out though. I'll let you know when I get my editing program back up. But for right now, I just wanna sulk and mourn for my lost Heaven's Faith 2.
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Re: Memories Of A Distant You MEP [We Are Full Up People]

Postby carlyxjack » Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:36 am

Huh I typed the name of a site in my previous post and I meant it in a good way,i just wanted to specify where I got my films from T_T
and I already got a warning. Hopefully I make not this kind of mistake again or I will be banned
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Re: Memories Of A Distant You MEP [We Are Full Up People]

Postby Angelyco » Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:28 am

carlyxjack wrote:Huh I typed the name of a site in my previous post and I meant it in a good way,i just wanted to specify where I got my films from T_T
and I already got a warning. Hopefully I make not this kind of mistake again or I will be banned

A good rule of thumb is just to NEVER mention you're using downloaded footage, especially not where you got it from.

TwilightChrono wrote:Sorry I haven't been on in a while guys. My poor computer sploded and I just got it fixed. I couldn't be madder. I lost everything. My Editing program, ALL my project files and the *Cry* Finished but never uploaded, due to lack of time and RL issues "Heaven's Faith 2". Seriously, I"m about to cry lol. I put so much work into it. Now I have to re-install everything and start from scratch on a bunch of my projects. I will however be finishing this one out though. I'll let you know when I get my editing program back up. But for right now, I just wanna sulk and mourn for my lost Heaven's Faith 2.

That sucks, dude :(
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Re: Memories Of A Distant You MEP [We Are Full Up People]

Postby Inan » Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:07 pm

i have a new beta, who wants it?
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Re: Memories Of A Distant You MEP [We Are Full Up People]

Postby Angelyco » Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:54 pm

I'd like to see it, I didn't get to see the first one.
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Re: Memories Of A Distant You MEP [We Are Full Up People]

Postby Kenzichu » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:29 am

getting started tomorrow everyone! I apologize for disappearing like that. I'll finish the prep tonight before i head to bed.
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