Macross Frontier

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Postby OropherZero » Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:07 am

I'm about 1/3 through the original 1983 Macross series. I'm starting to think I'm enjoying it more than Frontier if you put aside the animation difference o_O
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Postby Heero_Yuy84 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:07 pm

Honestly. I'd be inclined to agree.
While Frontier isn't bad, comparatively, it's shaping up to be probably the tamest Macross series out there.
Considering all the set-backs it suffered during production, the original still turned out great.
7 is a love it or hate it series, but that's partially thanks to the fact that, conceptually, Kawamori took a big risk with it. Luckily for him, said risk paid off, and the show sold like hotcakes.
Frontier, meanwhile, great animation aside, feels like a lot of same-old, same-old. It lacks the heart of the original series and doesn't seek to achieve the kind of crazy over-the-top nature that made 7 so memorable.
It's kind of like they settled for mediocre this time around.
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Postby duskull » Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:35 pm

you know that in episode 22 alto and sherly did the dirty d
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Postby Full Metal Sempai » Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:36 pm

Having watched original Macross(plus movies and specials),Zero and Plus,I believe that Frontier does a great justice to the saga although it cannot surpass the original.

Animation,mecha design,sound are all top notch.Amazings songs,ultra colorful intros(2nd opening "Lion" is pure greatness) and a quite good plot,though not so good as the original.

What is a bit bad with Frontier are the characters.Basically,the main character.While he isn't bad,he's also not something you'd expect from the main character.Sheryl and Ranka on the other side are quite interesting characters,unlike Alto.I thought that Sheryl was a bitch when I first saw her at episode 1 but as the episode count progressed,she appears to be the most dramatic character.Ranka had also some good moments, especially at episode 20,which imo was the best episode of Frontier so far.

As for secondary characters,Ozma is my favorite and Michel,though nothing special
as a character,gave us quite a dramatic moment.Same goes for Klan.Not much to say about the others...

Anyway,after Code Geass R2,I'd surely vote it for best anime of 2008 second half.Amusing and interesting,nice mecha fights in superb quality and resolution,cool songs.
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Postby OropherZero » Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:09 am

thoughts on second last ep?

because of the amount of anime which = cliffhanger endings which gets resolved in the next ep and the predictablility <- (created a new word) of it, i refuse to believe what happened.
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Postby Full Metal Sempai » Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:33 am

OropherZero wrote:thoughts on second last ep?

because of the amount of anime which = cliffhanger endings which gets resolved in the next ep and the predictablility <- (created a new word) of it, i refuse to believe what happened.


I'm waiting for Lunar fansubs so I'll reply most probably today or tomorrow.
Still,I can't say I liked what you just told.Hope they don't fuck this up too...
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Postby Full Metal Sempai » Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:45 pm

Sorry for double post...

In the end,I watched ep24 online from veoh first.Couldn't wait for Lunar.
[spoiler]
Anyway,I just hope that what I saw at the end didn't truly happen.Or to put it right,hope the plane detonated but Alto escaped somehow.Else,it'd be a disaster...

Still,ep24 was very good.Sheryl was excellent for another on episode and woah,she is Mao's daughter.The same Mao we saw in Macross Zero...[/spoiler]

ps:I want the plane figure which is shown at the ep25 prequel...^^
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Postby gaunai » Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:35 pm

I want that figure as well...

[spoiler]I have a strange feeling that Alto is still alive.. although with Michel died I almost stopped watching the series... LOL.

Hopefully all turns out for the best.. Ranka dies, Alto and Ranka's false older brother, skull 25, end up fighting.. somehow.. I just wanna see those two pound the crap outa each other for no random reason.[/spoiler]

Anywho... I personally like Frontier better then the original... it was just too slow for my tastes.
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Postby Heero_Yuy84 » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:43 am

I wouldn't worry much about Alto based on the franchise, and more specifically, the director.

Macross, in general, has had a reputation for fairly low body-counts.
Really the only one which did a fair number of named character kills was the original (which, as opposed to the rest of the Macross titles, wasn't directed by Kawamori, but Noburo Ishiguro.)

More to the point. Kawamori's done tricks like this before (two pilots in 7 had fake-out 'deaths' like this before and survived...including one having his fighter blown up with him in it.)
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Postby Flame-X » Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:18 am

Anyone see the last ep yet?

I'm kinda disappointed at the ending. Feels totally rushed. My opinion is based on the first watch so it might change after watching the 2nd or 3rd time.
Almost every song is played by both Sheryl and Ranka mixed/mashed together during the battle. Oh I feel sorry for the fansub watchers, expect spammage on karaoke slapped on to the screen so you won't enjoy the epic eye candy battle.
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Postby OropherZero » Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:53 am

haha yeah, lots of songs, watched it in raw so I was just O_O all the way with epic animation and battling. but yeah the ending feels kinda.... well I was happy enough but something about it in terms of the relationship aspect of the show annoyed me.

Anyway I bet the upcoming Frontier movie will be a retelling like DYRL though theres room for a sequel or spinoff I guess since it is Macross afterall.

I need to watch Macross Plus now because that planet looks familiar...

but yeah animation of final ep :up:
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Postby Full Metal Sempai » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:42 am

Ep25 was F***ING HOT!!!

Though the ending was indeed a bit rushed(just the all went good stuff),I was more than happy to watch this episode in raw.The karaoke would kill the experience of such an intense battle...

The battle had an explosive animation,it was beyond everything I've watched for quite a long time (well,a bit worse when compared to Evangelion's Rebuild Movie) and with also a lot of eye candy.Colourful battle banzai!!
Concerning the sound,the final battle used pretty much every we've heard so far.Thank god they used "Lion" in the final part of the battle.Best song of the OST for sure...^^

Anyway,I can see this episode's footage being used in a lot of amvs.And in mine too.Now to get my hands on creditless openings and endings of Frontier. 8-)

ps:Macross Frontier Movie???Hell yeah. :D :D
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Postby O-Kagachi » Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:51 am

Meh, the loli needs to get out of the picture.. moar sherylXalto plox.
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Postby Ileia » Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:50 pm

Oh hey, an ending that I'm okay with.


That's rare for anime.
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Postby Kalium » Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:44 pm

Did not like ending. Wrong girl got slapped. I hate this "power of love" crap, and I wish they would resolve the damn triangle.
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