Full Metal Alchemist

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby Ishbalan » Sun May 03, 2009 10:20 pm

The creators this time around have no sense of spectacle. They seem to want to put more action more ridiculously and more quickly than before. Before, the animators would produce less action but make it look much more spectacular, with amazing music accampanying. That's another thing I miss from the original series: the musical score. I believe last time they had an imported Russian orchestra. Their powerful music amplified the heat of battle, and drew you further into the heatpounding climactic moments. In the original show, the moment Ed had his arm destroyed was one of the most powerful WOAH moments I had ever seen. His arm broke into a thousand pieces in slow motion, and then we got a shot shot looking across at Edward from the point where his fingers used to be, followed by a zoom into his face that was a mixture of WHATTHECRAP and OHSHIT as he stared at his mess scrap floating in his arm's place. All accompanied by heavy orchestra. All that happened this time around as if it were nothing. His arm broke apart in a zoomed out shot, followed with a zoom in on Ed's OHSHIT face that lasted about a second. No spectacle. The show's musical score this time around is lame, its quiet and, put simply, its just background music. It adds nothing to the show.
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby Vivaldi » Sun May 03, 2009 11:19 pm

What part of "recap" don't you understand? They've covered 15 episodes in the space of 5 precisely because people don't want to watch the exact same thing again. It's just trying to get to the divergence point of the manga.

So no, it may not be as good as the equivalent episodes from the original, but how about you save your judgment for when the plot actually begins in ernest and it's not just quickly covering old ground.
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby 76 » Sun May 03, 2009 11:54 pm

Why not allow someone their opinion?

This is "discussion" after all...

Just because they're *trying to cover ground* doesn't mean that we, the fans, should condone their shitty efforts at recreating something great.

Thinking the other day I came to the conclusion that allot of the reason it's not as *good as the previous one* to those of us that favor that series is because allot of the gloominess is taken out. Many of the fans of the manga have said that the "anime was so depressing" by contrast. Allot of the sublime elements that made the series for us was the drama and emotional weight of each episode. The manga had a faster pace and more comic-relief, so the reader was hung up on any of the emotional tight-spots.

Looking at it from an outside standpoint I still can't enjoy the new series. I only watch to see what's being redone and how so. Maybe when they start introducing elements I'm not familiar with (not being a follower of the manga) I'll get interested enough to actually enjoy myself with it. Who knows.

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby 76 » Sun May 03, 2009 11:56 pm

The manga had a faster pace and more comic-relief, so the reader wasn't hung up on any of the emotional tight-spots.


Fix'd.

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby Vivaldi » Mon May 04, 2009 9:22 am

76 wrote:Why not allow someone their opinion?

This is "discussion" after all...

I...What?

When did I try to stop him from posting his opinion? I was just disagreeing with it. If anything you're apparently trying to keep me from posting my opinion.


Also, yes the gloominess is gone, as is the mood and pacing. Can you explain how you'd compress half the series into a handful of introductory\recap episodes and keep all that? Or would you rather sit through 5 months of the exact same stuff we saw 6 years ago before even getting to anything substantially new?
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby 76 » Mon May 04, 2009 2:55 pm

My apologies for not being clear-enough.

I was referring to the constant bashing on anyone that doesnt like the new series. Seems like if anyone presents a complaint, the oldfags wanna jump in and edumacate that ungrateful noob.

Fact is: I'm not complaining about the ground they're covering, I'm complaining about the bits I see simply being half-assed redo of the previous.

If they're going to spend the time to draw and animate the old scenes to fit into the new episodes, then do it so that it doesn't lose merit it gained with the previous series.

Simple as that.

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby Ishbalan » Mon May 04, 2009 7:13 pm

What I fear and what you should fear is that this new style of telling the story will not only bleed into the new material once it arrives, but be the unchanging policy toward telling the entire story. What I see isn't the same devotion to telling a story that I saw before. What I see is dressing up and milking an ancient cow long past its prime. I'm telling you that this pace isn't going to change once the "recap" is over. Such a slow down would be downright unnatural. You say we need to run so that we can walk later? Bullshit. This is about telling a good story. I would have preferred a normal pace similar to the one the old one had, and I don't care if it takes 5 months to get to where we see some major differences as long as the quality remains intact. The original FMA got shit done a lot faster than most shonen-appeal anime do. It was the perfect pace for its kind of story. You're trying to make a distance-runner beat the record for the 200 meter dash. It's not healthy and its not fun to watch.
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby Ishbalan » Mon May 04, 2009 7:22 pm

Simplified, the creators are high on the speed and we're going to be shortchanged because they can't beat the addiction when it needs to count.
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby clairdelune8 » Thu May 07, 2009 9:33 pm

I saw that part. I almost cried. I was so mad at that guy for doing that to his own daughter. :cry:
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby AriqLordOfSpirits » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:04 am

yeah.....it was too cruel. He experimented his daughter and his dog just to continue to be a state alchemist. And the saddest part was when she/it was blasted by chimera. I still remember how Ed reacted when he came to know about that....
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby Ishbalan » Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:25 pm

It appears we've reached the point where there will no longer be any more similarities between the two shows.
I definitely don't remember ninjas.
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby Full Metal Sempai » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:49 am

Ishbalan wrote:It appears we've reached the point where there will no longer be any more similarities between the two shows.
I definitely don't remember ninjas.


Well,manga's story is way different from that of the anime.
And we're just at the beginning of it.Thank god,because up to now I couldn't come to like the first episodes of the new season.It's true they stayed about 80% true to the manga,which has many comic relief scenes,but they lost both the dramatic climax and the great music that the first season had. :cry:
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby OropherZero » Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:56 am

ep19 = epic overkill
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby Full Metal Sempai » Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:56 pm

OropherZero wrote:ep19 = epic overkill


Heh,the real thing with FMA began after ep16.But ep19 was total overkill.Splendid animation too in the battle of Lust and Mustang.
Spoiler :
Can't even imagine how awesome it'll be when Ed fights Envy in his real form or in the battle of Briggs...


Hang on guys,we're still on volume 10 of the manga... :D
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby jethropr » Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:20 pm

Spoiler :
And don't forget when Mustang goes bananas on envy soon after!


I may, or may not have, made a mess in my pants from ep 19.
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