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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby guy07 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:08 am

I watched that ... why? :?
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby guardiansoulblade » Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:32 am

guy07 wrote:I watched that ... why? :?


Are you talking about a fansub of the new series? The legal stream comes out tomorrow. At 12:00 EST
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby 76 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:06 pm

I totally agree with Ishbalan on all counts.

This series deserved more justice.

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby 76 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:09 pm

Oh, and in case it hasn't already been mentioned: The original way they revealed his automail stomped the bloody, lumpy shit out of this new episode. They barely made anything of it - like it was old news or something, and the Ice-alchemist's reaction to it was damn-weak compared to the Priest's in "To challenge the sun".

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby guardiansoulblade » Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:05 pm

Maybe they didn't want fans to think, "Oh no, it's deja vu, I've seen this already with the first series." I won't pass judgment on it until I watch it tomorrow. It's only had one episode, maybe they'll put it in the story later.
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby Pas » Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:09 pm

Methinks people should stop comparing this shit to the original broadcast of the series. It's essentially the same as all the people who bitched about the anime not being the same as the manga in the beginning. And yet now they go ahead and make a version more faithful to the manga there are still people that bitch about THAT not being close enough to the anime adaption.

Stop watching just to compare. If you seriously can't see anything redeemable about the new broadcast, and love the previous anime adaption you can always go back to watching that. They are not the same show, there's no point in saying one isn't as good as the other based on how they decide to handle the events.

tl;dr don't watch to hate.
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby 76 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:36 pm

I do not watch to hate, though there was nothing redeeming about that. It was a total failure.

Was there anything about an "Ice Alchemist" in the first manga? Not that I remember. (Or: did anything in that episode match up to anything in the manga?)

So your argument is invalid.

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby Pas » Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:54 pm

76 wrote:Was there anything about an "Ice Alchemist" in the first manga? Not that I remember. (Or: did anything in that episode match up to anything in the manga?)

Yes. Emphasis on "IN THE MANGA". This isn't the manga, it's an adaption of that. The producers still have some leeway for original content, otherwise we'd be seeing nothing new.

76 wrote:So your argument is invalid.

I'm telling you that it's rather pointless to be watching a show merely for the purposes of pointing out how badly said show fails. I was always under the impression that anime was a hobby, and people would watch it to enjoy. I'm not saying you can't say anything bad about it but if you honestly believe, and I quote "there was nothing redeeming about that" then why bother watching it? Unless of course you're simply watching to see if anything changes within the next few episodes. It was, after all just the first episode. And from what I can recall, plenty of great series have started off with a strange/bad initial episode.

Once again I'd say to just watch the show for what it is. You're certainly not going to enjoy it if you continue to compare every aspect of it to the manga/anime because it won't be the same. It's a new show, expect some changes.
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby Vivaldi » Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:21 pm

76 wrote:I do not watch to hate, though there was nothing redeeming about that. It was a total failure.

Was there anything about an "Ice Alchemist" in the first manga? Not that I remember. (Or: did anything in that episode match up to anything in the manga?)

So your argument is invalid.

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The first series was accurate to the manga, for the first 20 episodes, with this series , Instead if having 20 OF THE EXACT SAME EPISODES. is having one or two ANIME ONLY EPISODES to quickly bring it up to speed. It's not suppose to be the same.

What part of that DON'T. YOU. GET?

In fact I think we've been over this several times, and you always conveniently ignore that part of the post. Which means either you're not reading at all, or you're just Bawwing for the sake of it.
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby hasteroth » Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:51 pm

Vivaldi wrote:
76 wrote:I do not watch to hate, though there was nothing redeeming about that. It was a total failure.

Was there anything about an "Ice Alchemist" in the first manga? Not that I remember. (Or: did anything in that episode match up to anything in the manga?)

So your argument is invalid.

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The first series was accurate to the manga, for the first 20 episodes, with this series , Instead if having 20 OF THE EXACT SAME EPISODES. is having one or two ANIME ONLY EPISODES to quickly bring it up to speed. It's not suppose to be the same.

What part of that DON'T. YOU. GET?

In fact I think we've been over this several times, and you always conveniently ignore that part of the post. Which means either you're not reading at all, or you're just Bawwing for the sake of it.


Anime exclusive episodes bring a sort of new flavour into the show, a nice change in pace, a kick start for a new show, etc. Most of us know what happens and it'd be boring if it started the exact same as the original.
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby 76 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:18 pm

Once again I'd say to just watch the show for what it is. You're certainly not going to enjoy it if you continue to compare every aspect of it to the manga/anime because it won't be the same. It's a new show, expect some changes.


I was and am watching it for my own, personal entertainment, however what is the point of discussion if we always state that which we like and never that which we do not?

I did expect new changes - I did not like the ones I saw.

The first series was accurate to the manga, for the first 20 episodes, with this series , Instead if having 20 OF THE EXACT SAME EPISODES. is having one or two ANIME ONLY EPISODES to quickly bring it up to speed. It's not suppose to be the same.


My point is: they could have done BETTER.

What part of that DON'T. YOU. GET?


Not a damn bit of it.

In fact I think we've been over this several times, and you always conveniently ignore that part of the post. Which means either you're not reading at all, or you're just Bawwing for the sake of it.


We'll never truly know, will we?

FMA is a great anime, and the half-ass job they're putting into this series is what's peeving me. Not that it's "not exactly like the old series or the manga".

It really feels like they're treating it just like the DB:E movie; Just throwing something out there to ease the masses.

It felt like I was watching an OVA special of the show where everyone had to get their 2 minutes of screentime.


By the way: Where does this series pickup relative to the story manga-wise?

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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby guardiansoulblade » Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:56 am

It's the "Mother" remake of the first series episode 3 airing today, I'm looking forward to seeing it inside the gate. I wonder if they'll have all those funny words written on the gate like in the manga.
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby Ishbalan » Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:00 am

Well, to be honest, having already swallowed eternal sadness last Sunday after that horrific timevoid they call a pilot episode, I can say that I enjoyed the second episode a bit. Just a bit. I cringed and grimaced only once:
It was when they Ed announced in a monologue, "But then our mother died in an epidemic" WITHOUT ANY VISUALS OF THE EVENT EXCEPT A MINUTE AT HER GRAVE. :x The event was so emotional before. This time around, they didn't give us half a moment to become attached to Trisha. Fucking.... fuck.

Other than that, I thought it went rather smoothly. We covered pretty much everything that needed to be said leading up to Ed becoming a State Alchemist in one episode. The alchemy exam was much shorter and simpler than before, and we had no extra time or anything to meet characters. Ed met Mustang, Hawkeye, and the Fuhrer and no one else of significance. So I suppose I must forgive the hasty introduction they gave Hughes. :roll: Scrap the emotion and binge on the plot because we've got no time for my sappy episodic pissfest.
I was happy to see the appearance of many until-now manga-exclusive elements that I missed (because I don't read manga.... at all. :sweat: :sweat: :sweat: I know what you're all thinking after reading that, but its the truth. Sorry for being so pretentious. :roll: ). Back when I was obessed with FMA, I used to read up on the manga's plot on wikipedia and I was fascinated by it, and I'm happy to see it now coming to fruition on screen. They mentioned Xing and Xerxes, and they implied that Hughes had been to the battlefield, and most important of all, Truth was there.
The new take on the Truth scene was done, admittedly, better than originally. (Though, I still would have liked to have seen that opening scene from episode 1.) In the original, they covered the need-to-know stuff initially, and then covered the rest later when Izumi came into the picture. This time it was covered all at once.

In conclusion, we've stepped up from being a moldy meatloaf to being a meat patty thats gone through the Lean Mean Grillin' Machine, but we're still a long way from being the deluxe Ribeye that was the original Fullmetal Alchemist.
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby guardiansoulblade » Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:20 am

WHAT THE HECK?! They gave Trisha Elric 30 FLIPPIN' SECONDS? They spent 15-20 MINUTES LAST TIME AND ALL SHE GETS THIS TIME IS 30 SECONDS?! That's not right! I can understand them flying through the alchemy exam, that's not that important, but what they did to Trisha is wrong, Wrong, WRONG!!
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Re: Full Metal Alchemist

Postby OropherZero » Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:32 am

^ WHO BLOODY CARES we've seen the 15mins already, move along time now. I was very happy with this episode in that it didn't drag as an entire repeat of the previous season. Why do people here want to see the same thing with better animation and widescreen? :/
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