spike bomb 11 wrote:What the hell Are you smoking? spike doesn't die in the movie! god! he dies in EP 26 while fighting vicious! (Freaking Idiot! gosh!) mabe you should try watching it before you talk about it.
bobbarker31 wrote:The Real Folk Blues Parts I and II are my favorite. Not to say that I did not enjoy Ballads too. In Real Folk, not only do we get the final confrontation with Vicious, the reunion with Julia, the assault on the Red Dragon building, but the very end approached something almost unique at the end. How can you not smile and yet still get a bit teary eyed at Spike smiling, going bang to the many Red Dragon soldiers, then Kanno's beautiful "Blue" starts rolling with Spike on the ground? The seeds were all sown in the earlier episodes, here is where it comes back to reap.
Ballads is cool too. Great action sequence.... The flashbacks were done well. We learn that Spike came between his best friend, Vicious, and his girlfriend, Julia.Maybe Vicious was not such a nutter before that happened. He probably had a normal name like Steve or something before that level of betrayl from the two people closest to him.
hanyou21 wrote:Vicious would probably still be alive, Spike and Julia probably would've run off to someplace like Venus or Europa, and the Bebop would still be down one helluva bounty hunter. Still, sadly, she needs to die for the series to have meaning and finality - it sucks, but its necessary.
Spikebomb00 wrote:hanyou21 wrote:Vicious would probably still be alive, Spike and Julia probably would've run off to someplace like Venus or Europa, and the Bebop would still be down one helluva bounty hunter. Still, sadly, she needs to die for the series to have meaning and finality - it sucks, but its necessary.
Nah, I'm sure that even Julia had lived she would have died later. Spike and Julia weren't stupid, they knew that in order for them to truly live they had to escape the clutches of the syndicate for good, which means killing Vicious. They didn't say it exactly but in their conversation just before Julia dies they're talking about Julia leaving and she says she's not going anywhere. I believe that they were talking about assassinating Vicious too, not just Julia fleeing from the upcoming battle. And even if she were to leave that battle unscathed she definately would have died in the final confrontation. If you'll remember once they exited Annie's store onto the roof, there was a man there and Julia had to fire several shots before the man went down. Point in case, she has horrible aim. I love the girl, but man, she needed some target practice or something, it looked like it was her first time to fire her gun.
hanyou21 wrote:Spikebomb00 wrote:hanyou21 wrote:Vicious would probably still be alive, Spike and Julia probably would've run off to someplace like Venus or Europa, and the Bebop would still be down one helluva bounty hunter. Still, sadly, she needs to die for the series to have meaning and finality - it sucks, but its necessary.
Nah, I'm sure that even Julia had lived she would have died later. Spike and Julia weren't stupid, they knew that in order for them to truly live they had to escape the clutches of the syndicate for good, which means killing Vicious. They didn't say it exactly but in their conversation just before Julia dies they're talking about Julia leaving and she says she's not going anywhere. I believe that they were talking about assassinating Vicious too, not just Julia fleeing from the upcoming battle. And even if she were to leave that battle unscathed she definately would have died in the final confrontation. If you'll remember once they exited Annie's store onto the roof, there was a man there and Julia had to fire several shots before the man went down. Point in case, she has horrible aim. I love the girl, but man, she needed some target practice or something, it looked like it was her first time to fire her gun.
I don't know, part of me says that they'd go the non-violent route and just run - I mean, all they'd need is each other, and I'm sure that as ruthless as Vicious is, he may not be able to hunt them down. The other part of me says, ya, they'd go after Vicious, but I'd tend to go with the first guess because all Spike longs for is his love - no need to go on a vendetta trip when your girl's by your side - especially when you may never come back to her.
Idk about the gun part, we've never exactly seen Julia at the range, but you could be right. Bottom line is, though, I think that they'd have said screw the world, let Vicious does what he wants, we're going to Earth. I guess we'll never know...
Spike_ Spiegel wrote:Even though the last two Ep are my favorites, it sucks that Vicious dies. there are some good things about the guy.(well, there were anyways.)he use to be spikes best friend. well, not any more, but Vicious is a cool guy. Hes been through alot of crap in his life as well as spike. Maybe more Vicious then Spike, close call.
And heres another reason why you need to like Vicious a little: slimply because he is the bad guy. You can't have good without a little evil. Can you?
I'll ancwer that for you, NO, you can't!
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Now off the Vicious thing. In the last Ep, spike was being kind of stupid in a way by going by himself to get Vicious. Yes, he was in rage and in anger, but he should of thought it through and got the crew together and make a plan to kill Vicious and the syndkite. Vicious wasn't going anywhere, spike knew.
Kita1304 wrote: this is my topic and you shouldn't be cridisizing!
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