Naruto episode 78 ( best episode, at lease for me ) spoiler

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Postby Calim » Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:37 pm

Well, sasuke limit is when the curse seal appears. After he did that jutsu the 3rd time that kakashi showed him. Sasuke completly ran out of his charka. And the cursed seal appears, if sasuke never had the cursed seal, he would be ass out. and thats a fact.


ahahah *waggles finger* your wrong there again, Sasuke barely had enough power to do a third one and when he did it he was forced to rely on the power of the cursed seal which he did which broke Kakashi's Seal. If you go back to the time of the tests during the Woods of Death or whatever when he was knocked out, note that the purple chakara(which eminates and increases his power) and the fact when he kicked that one teams butt that the cursed seal enveloped him...not draining his powers but infact BOOSTING his powers giving him the energy to deal serious damage. Watch the part were he fights Gaara again but watch it closely and you'll see what I mean.

Now here is an interesting question, who do you think would win betwene sasuke and naruto on fighting hand to hand combat? without summoning the frog king. ( its hard to say, sasuke is very skilled in hand to hand combat. especially since he got rock lee speed, well his faster )

Mmm... I think Sasuke would win. I mean sure Naruto can go nuts with Kago Bunshin, but Sasuke has well...intelligence...and strategy (not to mention the Sharingan in general)...


I agree with you, sasuke has more intelligent, has the Sharingan, and strategy...but you have to consider Naruto here for a minute...he's shown that in tough times like fighting Gaara or others when he's cornered he can be a genius at fighting and a real ass kicker when he needs to. Not only that but he has WAY more stamina and energy then Sasuke would ever had if it not for the Cursed Seal that boosts his energies.

Besides, Sasuke's his friend, he doesn't have that level of I-don't-care-who-you-are-I'm-going-to-kick-your-ass type of persona yet. Whereas Sasuke could probably care less. Not to mention Naruto seems to attain his full potential only when his friends are in danger (I mean even with the hokage thing, he still just beat Neji just to make up for what he'd done to Hinata...)...so unless Sasuke suddenly decides he's going all squirrely and kill everybody from the village I don't think Naruto could bring himself to totally kick his ass.


Your wrong at the fact that he's wanted to kick Sasuke's ass in a fight ever since they meet, if it came down to it both of them would go all out with each other even if they were friends (although I doubt they would kill each other). Another thing, sorry but your wrong that Naruto only attains more power when his friends are in danger although he does but those aren't the only times, he also if you will notice during both fights in the test and in the tournements he rose to the challenge beyond what anyone expected and kicked ass.

Well for me I'm kind of hesitant because:

1. we know Naruto is the main character and will eventually be the kick asser of the series leaving Sasuke in the dust at some point of time unless the makers want to do some damn plot twist. Which isn't now.

2. Sasuke's and Naruto's full potential have not been revealed yet, albeid that Naruto has the Fox's powers but only a part of it so far....and Sasuke has the Cursed Seal's power but not enough to satisfy him remember, "He will seek me for more power" The evil dude said something amongst those lines.

3. Naruto can summon a huge frog, and Sasuke gots speed.

I believe right now there matched but even if Naruto has no chance of winning I'd still go with him because he's my favorite character ^^. Next to Hinata that is...if I had it my way she would have kicked Neji's ass and been the most powerful character there.
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Postby DuoEnigma » Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:14 pm

if sasuke didn't have the curse seal when he did it the third time he would have pasted out or been paralized for the moment because he wasted all his charka. Kakakshi said it in episode 75 i believe. that if he does it 3 times, it won't be complete and he will die, and even if he doesn't die it, it wont do him any good because no charka will be left.

Sasuke is powerful without a doubt, but he can't continue fighting in long terms. Sasuke is the type that he will try to finish u quick, while naruto on the other hand can continue fighting for longer periods of time.

Oh! and naruto only knows 3-4 jutsus! he doesn't know anymore then that. At lease not from what i seen,

(1) transform
(2) replica
(3) book thing ( is this the thing he puts in your butt ? )
(4) frog king

and lots and lots of combos!
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Postby Kalium » Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:25 pm

Well, Naurto does only seem to know those jutsu's, he also has the power of the kyubi to draw on if he needs to. This means things like an army of shadow clones (remember than the Sharingan can't tell them apart) too large to easily handle. And besides, each one of those clones has the ability to transform into something far nastier.

And remember what happened much earlier in the series, and again when Naruto went against Orochimaru? He got pissed enough to lose control. Big nasty and red came out.
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Postby keyboardsamurai » Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:26 am

Oh! and naruto only knows 3-4 jutsus! he doesn't know anymore then that. At lease not from what i seen,

(1) transform
(2) replica
(3) book thing ( is this the thing he puts in your butt ? )
(4) frog king

and lots and lots of combos!


I forgot which episode it was, but he did do a replica move that was x2,
like a kameamea x2 so is that technically a new jitsu (he added another jitsu name as well to it *it wasn't just jitsu replica or whatever)
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Postby Calim » Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:25 am

Also, he knows how to turn into a lady and do replicas with the Shadow Jitsu so....

Also I wasn't happy with the way it went in 78, I was hoping for him to go all midevil and go bad.
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Postby Moonlight Soldier » Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:31 pm

Calim wrote:Also, he knows how to turn into a lady and do replicas with the Shadow Jitsu so....

Also I wasn't happy with the way it went in 78, I was hoping for him to go all midevil and go bad.


I believe that could constitute as two jitsu's >.>

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Postby In4ser » Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:37 pm

Moonlight Soldier wrote:Not only that, but the fact that Sasuke actually acknowledges Naruto. No more fraidy cat. I think it's cool too, how originally, Naruto could only summon the chakra of the ninetails when he was gripped by that near death feeling, which ultimately became the desire to protect his friends. I liked that...hehe


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I'm not totally sure...if Sasuke acknowledges Naruto.

*BIG SPOILER*
I guess, he acknowledges Naruto as being very strong. But once he discovers his brother is intererested in Naruto rather than Him (who wasted his entire life huntin and training to kill him) he becomes insecure and vengeful. In attempt to prove to himself he is strong he tries to kill Naruto. After Kakashi halts the fight. In which Sasuke trying to kill Naruto with Chidor and Naruto counters with the more powerful Rasengan (The 4th's move) he talks to Frog Hermit, Perverted Sannin dude...dunno how to spell Jiraya. They say Naruto is trying to be acknowledged by Sasuke who won't do that. Then Sasuke goes crazy, and thirst for power, he finds in Orochimaru then goes evil...and starts too look like Kenshin and Aoshi then all over again.
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Postby In4ser » Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:48 pm

Calim wrote:
Well, sasuke limit is when the curse seal appears. After he did that jutsu the 3rd time that kakashi showed him. Sasuke completly ran out of his charka. And the cursed seal appears, if sasuke never had the cursed seal, he would be ass out. and thats a fact.


ahahah *waggles finger* your wrong there again, Sasuke barely had enough power to do a third one and when he did it he was forced to rely on the power of the cursed seal which he did which broke Kakashi's Seal. If you go back to the time of the tests during the Woods of Death or whatever when he was knocked out, note that the purple chakara(which eminates and increases his power) and the fact when he kicked that one teams butt that the cursed seal enveloped him...not draining his powers but infact BOOSTING his powers giving him the energy to deal serious damage. Watch the part were he fights Gaara again but watch it closely and you'll see what I mean.

Now here is an interesting question, who do you think would win betwene sasuke and naruto on fighting hand to hand combat? without summoning the frog king. ( its hard to say, sasuke is very skilled in hand to hand combat. especially since he got rock lee speed, well his faster )

Mmm... I think Sasuke would win. I mean sure Naruto can go nuts with Kago Bunshin, but Sasuke has well...intelligence...and strategy (not to mention the Sharingan in general)...


I agree with you, sasuke has more intelligent, has the Sharingan, and strategy...but you have to consider Naruto here for a minute...he's shown that in tough times like fighting Gaara or others when he's cornered he can be a genius at fighting and a real ass kicker when he needs to. Not only that but he has WAY more stamina and energy then Sasuke would ever had if it not for the Cursed Seal that boosts his energies.

Besides, Sasuke's his friend, he doesn't have that level of I-don't-care-who-you-are-I'm-going-to-kick-your-ass type of persona yet. Whereas Sasuke could probably care less. Not to mention Naruto seems to attain his full potential only when his friends are in danger (I mean even with the hokage thing, he still just beat Neji just to make up for what he'd done to Hinata...)...so unless Sasuke suddenly decides he's going all squirrely and kill everybody from the village I don't think Naruto could bring himself to totally kick his ass.


Your wrong at the fact that he's wanted to kick Sasuke's ass in a fight ever since they meet, if it came down to it both of them would go all out with each other even if they were friends (although I doubt they would kill each other). Another thing, sorry but your wrong that Naruto only attains more power when his friends are in danger although he does but those aren't the only times, he also if you will notice during both fights in the test and in the tournements he rose to the challenge beyond what anyone expected and kicked ass.

Well for me I'm kind of hesitant because:

1. we know Naruto is the main character and will eventually be the kick asser of the series leaving Sasuke in the dust at some point of time unless the makers want to do some damn plot twist. Which isn't now.

2. Sasuke's and Naruto's full potential have not been revealed yet, albeid that Naruto has the Fox's powers but only a part of it so far....and Sasuke has the Cursed Seal's power but not enough to satisfy him remember, "He will seek me for more power" The evil dude said something amongst those lines.

3. Naruto can summon a huge frog, and Sasuke gots speed.

I believe right now there matched but even if Naruto has no chance of winning I'd still go with him because he's my favorite character ^^. Next to Hinata that is...if I had it my way she would have kicked Neji's ass and been the most powerful character there.


Well know Naruto is going to win...good will triumph over evil, at least in this anime anyway, as well as main character. Though Kishmoto says Sasuke is one of his favorite character. Plus demon beats curse seal any day. Though Sasuke is probably one of the favs, hand to hand, Tai jutus no contest Sasuke, Naruto stats in Tai jutus are horrible. Unless they go Curse seal and Kyubi Naruto. Nin jutus wise Naruto and Sasuke are pretty close, while Naruto has Rasengan, Sasuke has Chidori AND Sharingan Eyes. But summonin will be the death of Sasuke.
You need to check out the latest chapters (chapter 212 is the latest) of Naruto manga, search on google. Sasuke and Naruto are going to fight soon time soon, Curse Seal Lvl 2 vs. Kyubi.
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Postby DuoEnigma » Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:44 am

dude what are you talking about? I read all the mangas, up to eps 212! can't wait till 213 comes out. Sasuke doesn't look for orichimu ( wrong spelling ) they come looking for him, and give him an option (1) join us and become powerful (2) stay at the same level. He chooses one
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Postby Calim » Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:31 am

In4ser Shhh :P *looks around suspiciously* The admins and Phade don't allow talk of illegal stuff like that, so message me next time :P

And please don't tell me anything from the manga! I'm gonna watch the episodes :P
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Postby In4ser » Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:52 pm

DuoEnigma wrote:dude what are you talking about? I read all the mangas, up to eps 212! can't wait till 213 comes out. Sasuke doesn't look for orichimu ( wrong spelling ) they come looking for him, and give him an option (1) join us and become powerful (2) stay at the same level. He chooses one


"Then Sasuke goes crazy, and thirst for power, he finds in Orochimaru then goes evil..."

What do you mean? Sasuke wants power to prove his existence, because he's entire existence has been rendered meaningless. He looks for power. Which he finds IN Orochimaru, as in the Curse Seal. I never mentioned he looks for orochimaru.
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