HeartbreakerByZep wrote: I doubt EoTV was put together two hours before show time, be reasonable. Monarch, just because you didn't get the intended effect from EoTV doesn't mean that it is incomplete.
HeartbreakerByZep wrote:Some of the animation should have been improved, but the story boards part is IMO essential, I wouldn't change it.
Daio Kaji wrote:HeartbreakerByZep wrote:
but i still believe that some of the characters didn't get all the attention they should have in the last two eps concerning instrumentality, but then again, since they only were going to do 2 episodes, they specifically said they do not have the time to show everything, so they will focus on the Case of Shinji Ikari.
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Daio Kaji wrote:HeartbreakerByZep wrote:Some of the animation should have been improved, but the story boards part is IMO essential, I wouldn't change it.
but i still believe that some of the characters didn't get all the attention they should have in the last two eps concerning instrumentality, but then again, since they only were going to do 2 episodes, they specifically said they do not have the time to show everything, so they will focus on the Case of Shinji Ikari.
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HeartbreakerByZep wrote:Yeah, that's definetly true. It would have been nice to see Gendou "insturmentalized" also. But I understand why it was like that, after all Anno was getting over his own problems, and he had put his problems into Shinji, and he is the main character anyway. More episodes could have been done, but more than 2 might have completely dampened it. On a semi-related note, isn't it interesting which parts of the series people like the most? I have a friend that I just finally convinced to watch Evangelion recently (he had had it in his grasp for so long and finally watched it) and he thinks that The End of Evangelion was a far less conclusive ending, and that the last 2 TV episodes are a great ending. Though, he's only seen EoE once and I bet the depressingness of it all had an affect. FYI his favorite episode is #24
Daio Kaji wrote:i don't think that many people were watching the series to just see the actual artificial evolution of humans become initiated and fully animated... i'm sure there were some that were, but for the vast majority of the people that were watching evangelion because of the dilemas (sp?) within the actual characters, the series ends sufficiently well with the exception of some characters
the Black Monarch wrote:But EoE goes so much more into the character growth than EoTV, too! The shot of Gendo's broken glasses was much more powerful than anything from EoTV. Or how about that part where Misato finally convinces Shinji to get off his ass and help Asuka, only for him to find that he can't because Shogouki (unit 01) is stuck in the bakelite? Can you imagine what effect that must have had on his self-esteem? He's finally convinced that yes, he CAN help other people, and then 30 seconds later he finds out that he was right all along, and he can't help anyone. Ooh, and Asuka finally gets paid back for all that mean stuff she did to Shinji! And he gets straddled by Rei!
Bottom line, EoE isn't just eye candy - it also has more creative and carefully constructed character development than EoTV.
Daio Kaji wrote:so in the end, for me EoE>EoTV
but i'm not abandoning EoTV anytime soon
the Black Monarch wrote:Bottom line, EoE isn't just eye candy - it also has more creative and carefully constructed character development than EoTV.
the Black Monarch wrote: Whether you want to admit it or not, the last two episodes are very much incomplete.
UncleMilo wrote:If I read Daio Kaji correctly, then I agree.
If you must merge Evangelion and End of Evangelion, then the series must end on the last note of the TV series. It seems that the scene at the end of the movie is about where the line about the world where everone is gone fits in.
After all... the end of the TV series is rather non-linear and so for it to merge well with the movie, you have to kind of jump around.
-Uncle Milo
UncleMilo wrote:If you must merge Evangelion and End of Evangelion, then the series must end on the last note of the TV series. It seems that the scene at the end of the movie is about where the line about the world where everone is gone fits in.
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