end of Evangelion (episodes 25 and 26) - confused

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end of Evangelion (episodes 25 and 26) - confused

Postby The Hitokiri Battousai » Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:56 pm

k I can't explain on how confused on am. I just finished Neon Genisis Evangelion and my mind is boggled. What just happened there? What was the significance and all that stuff like Case 1 and 2 and stuff? Im talking bout episodes 25 and 26 what happened there.

Anyone who knows alot bout this, can you please explain what the heck happened?
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Postby Otohiko » Sat Feb 14, 2004 11:37 pm

hehe, boy, am I not surprised to see this reaction.

I hope some of the more enthusiastic people come up and explain it (Uncle Milo, where are you?), before the skeptics get around and proclaim these eps the worst things ever.

Essentially, my interpretation is that these are a direct depiction of what the characters, mainly Shinji, are going through internally.

I don't think I want to go into detail myself. I've been too impressed by them on a purely artistic level to try and dictate them in some dry analytical sort of way.
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Postby Kalium » Sun Feb 15, 2004 1:52 am

Otohiko, I don't think a dry analysis of the finals episodes of Evangelion is even possible. Well, not a coherent one that covers all the possabilities. It's just too.... Chaotic and confusing, I guess. My impression was of one designed, in part, to cause confusion in the viewer, which it does admirably.
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Postby )v(ajin Koji » Sun Feb 15, 2004 7:16 am

watch "End of Evangelion": it's much easier to understand.

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Postby TheMadOne » Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:27 am

)v(ajin Koji wrote:watch "End of Evangelion": it's much easier to understand.

:wink:



Maybe because (spoiler)
they are all dying in the most violent and fucked up way in EoE?
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Postby Otohiko » Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:19 am

You know though, I liked EoE as a movie, but all through it, I couldn't help thinking that I preferred 25 and 26 as the ending...


....until like, the last few seconds. :P

Yea, EoE is closer to what most people would have expected Eva to end like (and it is, in essence, an alternative version of eps. 25 and 26). Well, besides, perhaps, the fact that it really goes overkill in places
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Postby )v(ajin Koji » Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:20 am

Otohiko wrote:You know though, I liked EoE as a movie, but all through it, I couldn't help thinking that I preferred 25 and 26 as the ending...


....until like, the last few seconds. :P


x2 i prefer the original ending much more...mostly

However, if this makes sense, I find the movie more entertaining to watch.
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Postby Otohiko » Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:24 am

Heh. I don't know if I can say 'entertaining' :roll:

I remember when I realized that, in making my latest AMV, I had to watch pretty much the whole thing in slo-mo :?

But actually, I enjoyed that more than I expected :D

Still, in terms of confusedness - I still wouldn't say EoE goes too much farther than 25/26.

I think for a lot of people, they would've been much happier were the series to end at ep. 24.

I'm not one of these people :P
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Postby )v(ajin Koji » Sun Feb 15, 2004 11:33 am

Otohiko wrote:Heh. I don't know if I can say 'entertaining' :roll:

I remember when I realized that, in making my latest AMV, I had to watch pretty much the whole thing in slo-mo :?

But actually, I enjoyed that more than I expected :D


when i made my Eva vid i captured the clips with the commentary audio.

I had lots of fun ^_^
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Postby Cyanna » Sun Feb 15, 2004 11:40 am

I don't complain about episode 25 and 26....it's just more of the mental stuff you see in End of Eva and none of the action. That whole "what do you want?" bit.
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Postby Tsunami Jones » Sun Feb 15, 2004 11:51 am

I personally enjoyed the regular ending far more than EoE. Anyways, I don't think there is one right interpretation to the last two episodes. Just about everyone I've talked to believes something else. Which, I think, makes a far better ending than the more direct one in EoE.
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Postby HeartbreakerByZep » Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:22 pm

Neon Genesis Evangelion TV episodes 25 & 26 are two of my all-time favorite episodes. Of course, The End Of Evangelion is also one of my all-time favorite movies. They're both superb. The TV ending is pretty in-depth, it's great to watch. As for what it means - I'd consider it the kind of thing that is better for someone to analyze (watch a bunch of times) and decide for yourself what each part means.
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Postby HeartbreakerByZep » Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:26 pm

(Sorry for the double post)

If Evangelion had ended at episode 24 everything would be completely ruined. There's no other way to think about it. People complain about plot points not being hit on in the TV ending (though those plot points are concluded in EoE0 but if you cut off Evangelion's well constructed ending you don't have any conclusion what-so-ever. It would be like ending Cowboy Bebop at Jupiter Jazz... no worse.

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Postby Otohiko » Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:28 pm

Perhaps, perhaps you're right.

I'm just speaking from the experience of watching Eva with a friend of mine who was perfectly on top of the series... until after #24. Although it's fair to say he's not the most intelligent person imaginable :?

That was kind of his reaction. 25 and 26 are what makes the series love-it-or-hate it; until they roll around, most people are perfectly content with it.
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Postby Jnzk » Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:51 pm

I liked the TV ending better too, not to say that EoE was bad in any way. Eps 25 & 26 were great because they were so dream-like, emotional and confusing.
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