Tab. wrote:Here's the quote you've all been waiting for:
"We can't conclude our findings for our investigation lightly either. A completely localized change to the atmospheric elements. The thorough extermination of all life, including microorganisms. The traces of an enormous cavern directly below the blast center. And this giant of light. This incident is full of mysteries."
Checked and found. Thanks.
Cyanna wrote:The promised time has come. With the Lance of Longinus now lost, complementation using Lilith is impossible. Our only hope is to proceed with EVA-01, Lilith's sole clone.
Ah, the peculiarities of translations... the word so often translated as "clone" does not actually mean that. "Bunshin" can be a clone, yes, but it can also be offspring, a facsimile, a spinoff, or one's "other self". It does not refer specifically to clones. Unit 01 was more a copy of Lillith than the other Evas were, but there is nothing to suggest a physical relationship (aside, of course, from one blurry image that can only barely be made out, but that everyone insists shows Unit 01).
Kracus wrote:what part of the series are you getting that from or are you just pulling that from your ass?
I'm getting it from the fact that it's logical and true. Where are you getting the idea that she was insane?
Kracus wrote:example, I provided a definition, you have provided nothing
You provided a definition for a word that had previously not been mentioned and was completely irrelevant to our discussion.
Kracus wrote:I didn't post the dialogue I was watching to discredit yours, just provide another very close and similar translation from the Death part of Death & Rebirth. I have the uncut version and I know what it says
You posted a less accurate translation. How would a less accurate translation help?
Kracus wrote:first notice the 'what if' I added. Yes Gendo says Giant of Light because that is what he saw.
But Gendo did NOT see the Giant of Light, since he was in Japan when 2I occurred.
Kracus wrote:Because at that time he was lit up. But Rei and Lilith do the same thing. So Adam is not the only one who can be considered the Giant of Light
So what if Rei and Lillith glow? There is only one entity that is ever called a Giant of Light, and that is Adam.
Kracus wrote:I was saying that to throw away what you said but to add to what you said for those who didn't accept what you said
Similarly, I was only adding to what YOU said.
Kracus wrote:Again, where in the series did you see that? You need proof. I'm not advocating that Rei has died three times but you need actual proof or you can't go around saying everyone else is wrong
I already provided proof on Page 1. Aside from that, ask any medical professional if it's possible to commit suicide by holding your breath.
Kracus wrote:here is something else rei says.
Rei: No Problem. Let me go. I don't mind, even if I die--- there is another.
There are other pilots.
Kracus wrote:Gendo was working for Seele and left the day before Kasuragi's team died in the SI.
Which has SQUAT to do with when Adam was retrieved from Antarctica.
Alright peeps, time to pull out the big guns.
the red cross book wrote:*a bunch of stuff that is unsubstantiated by the series, written by Viz, approved by people at gainax who hadn't watched the whole series, and so often vague that the authors must be wild-ass guessing at everything they say*
My my, wasn't that helpful?
UncleMilo wrote:It was established that the EVAs had computer brains that were the same "model" as the MAGI computers. That the computer brains had human imprints to function. Blah blah blah, the sky is orange, blah blah blah, my mom is Oprah, blah blah blah
Do you have any proof for ANY of this?
I was thinking the same thing...
Daio Kaji wrote:Rei's origins most logically to me seem to be that she was created AFTER Yui died, Rei's entire purpose is a tool to re-unite Gendo with Yui, so there is NO reason for her to even exist if Yui is still alive
Rei's purpose was to cause Third Impact. The Yui part came later.
Daio Kaji wrote:at one point in the series, rei tells shinji "well... that's good for you." and it OBVIOUSLY is one of the few memories that shinji has of his mother, therefore part of Rei IS Yui
Of course, somewhere in Yui's genetic code there was the phrase "that's good for you," so Rei must have the same gene
Daio Kaji wrote:2- because the evas are made from an angel (lillith), Rei is able to syncronize with the evas successfully for the same reason kaworu could, because they are made of the same material
Umm... Unit 01 was the only Eva to be made based on Lillith... all the others were based on Adam.
Daio Kaji wrote:from what i've seen and read (including interviews), it [2I] happened in 2000
The series itself says so. Interviews are not necessary...
Daio Kaji wrote:what we (humans) did was use the only instrument capable of killing a god to stop adam from continuing his killing spree
Yes, I'm sure Adam's bloody rampage across Antarctica had to be stopped immediately
Daio Kaji wrote:and so people know Dummy Plugs do not equal clones
what shinji had with him in his entry plug against eva unit 03 was NOT clone, there was no physical body, it was a badly imitated digital equivalent of a soul/personality
Prove to me that the mysterious box with "Rei" written on it did not have a Rei clone inside, and I'll believe you.
Daio Kaji wrote: they didn't find the damn embryo til like 14 years later
There's no evidence for that. Adam could have been found the very next day for all we know.
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