[C] The Money of Soul and Possibility Control

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Re: [C] The Money of Soul and Possibility Control

Postby ibabrak » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:42 am

Just a quick question. Mikuni has three Assets, right.. Does anybody know all their names? I only know of Q and Aurore... I have no idea what's the name of the 3rd one :/
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Re: [C] The Money of Soul and Possibility Control

Postby CodeZTM » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:19 am

Finally caught up with everything. :D

Spoiler :
DAMN SHIT GOT SERIOUS!

I loved when the economies of the world started to affect each other, because this is a worldwide thing that happens even in the real world on a constant basis. 9/11, the Japanese Tsunami, ect. They all had direct affects to each national economy, and put them into nosedives.

More importantly, I was kind of irked that kiddo was so damn indecisive. I mean, I was thankful that he never got seduced by the money, but even up until the very end, he was so unsure of himself!

In the end, I LOVED blondie the best. She knew what to do and how to do it!

Oh, and the world without futures was actually very frightening to me there at the end. O_o

But DAMN. Why'd the damn bank have to come back? I see a trend of this shit happening a lot [or HAS happened a lot]. Season 2?
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Re: [C] The Money of Soul and Possibility Control

Postby Emong » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:56 pm

Japan really has to be overwhelmed by liberalism because even their art and entertainment is so pro-capital, at least judging by the few anime series that I've seen recently, including this one. When you combine economics textbooks and video games, with a hint of typical sexist motifs of anime, you get C: The Money of Soul and Possibility Control.

Spoiler :
Whose side was I supposed to be on? :P I was totally supporting that pseudo-socialist guy Mikuni from the very beginning, despite of his disgusting sermon in the end of episode three ("the purpose of your life is to gain wealth for the sake of your family", in other words "exploit others --> profit".) He was the only person who seemed to acknowledge the social consequences of the finance economy and tried to defeat it in its own game. It seemed to me like the authors of the series shared an economistic mindset so ofcourse he was made to be this big leftist enemy.

So the series got boring towards the end. Should I have been cheering for Yoga on his grand mission against protectionism? No thanks. And what was with the oscillation between future and no future? If you don't let the finance economy run wild but instead you choose to defend yourself against its whims by regulative measures, you're only denying your future? What is this? An IMF seminar? :| I was also astounded by Yoga's (and the authors' since they sided with Yoga) sense of morality: It's OK if whole countries disappear from the face of the earth but if they only disappear partially, that is if only some people get killed instead of the whole population, it's the most terrible thing that could happen. But hey, the former option plays by the book (of economics) while the latter is a consequence of protectionism and regulation (that's cheating!)

Jennifer's character (the badass looking IMF agent) could have been interesting. She was the only one who had the intention of overthrowing the whole financial district system (talk about communist motives!) but unfortunately she sided too much with Yoga instead of encaging in ultra badass radical action. I guess that was only the result of her being an agent of IMF rather than some labor union :uhoh:

I also mentally threw up during the car driver's little speech on trust in finance in the final episode. :down:


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Re: [C] The Money of Soul and Possibility Control

Postby CodeZTM » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:21 pm

Emong wrote:Japan really has to be overwhelmed by liberalism because even their art and entertainment is so pro-capital, at least judging by the few anime series that I've seen recently, including this one. When you combine economics textbooks and video games, with a hint of typical sexist motifs of anime, you get C: The Money of Soul and Possibility Control.

Spoiler :
Whose side was I supposed to be on? :P I was totally supporting that pseudo-socialist guy Mikuni from the very beginning, despite of his disgusting sermon in the end of episode three ("the purpose of your life is to gain wealth for the sake of your family", in other words "exploit others --> profit".) He was the only person who seemed to acknowledge the social consequences of the finance economy and tried to defeat it in its own game. It seemed to me like the authors of the series shared an economistic mindset so ofcourse he was made to be this big leftist enemy.

So the series got boring towards the end. Should I have been cheering for Yoga on his grand mission against protectionism? No thanks. And what was with the oscillation between future and no future? If you don't let the finance economy run wild but instead you choose to defend yourself against its whims by regulative measures, you're only denying your future? What is this? An IMF seminar? :| I was also astounded by Yoga's (and the authors' since they sided with Yoga) sense of morality: It's OK if whole countries disappear from the face of the earth but if they only disappear partially, that is if only some people get killed instead of the whole population, it's the most terrible thing that could happen. But hey, the former option plays by the book (of economics) while the latter is a consequence of protectionism and regulation (that's cheating!)

Jennifer's character (the badass looking IMF agent) could have been interesting. She was the only one who had the intention of overthrowing the whole financial district system (talk about communist motives!) but unfortunately she sided too much with Yoga instead of encaging in ultra badass radical action. I guess that was only the result of her being an agent of IMF rather than some labor union :uhoh:

I also mentally threw up during the car driver's little speech on trust in finance in the final episode. :down:


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Spoiler :
I just kind of tried to ignore any and all blatant ties to real world economic philosophy and went with a "oh, it's an anime" sort of thing. I think the inclusion of the financial district's magic money sort of made it hard to make any real life connection. that, and because i do enough economics studying in college classes that I'd really rather not think any more about it than I have to.

Although I'll agree with you on Jennifer. Such a wasted character in her that makes me really sad.

In terms of Yoga, I think he was more personally selfish than "protectionist". I think he was mostly concerned about Mysu and her future, and his little remaining family, and that girl he was interested in [if the last episode's after story says anything]. He desire to save these people sort of moved his motivations, in which I think was proven with the battle with Angel and the charity guy. He didn't want to fork over half his future, because that would negatively affect the people around him. But we also have to remember the difference between him and Mikuni. Yoga's an idealistic college student who hasn't experienced the real world yet, while Mikuni is much more understanding of the way of the worlds.

Mikuni-wise though, I honestly dont' think that they could have gone this far in the anime without him. How many times did he bail out Japan, even before C? He was a massive character who I believe did a lot of good before he sort of went bonkers at the end. Surely he realized that if there was nothing left of Japan, that it'd kind of be hard to protect it after a while? Eventually, there would be no people, or there would be like.... No people. Kind of makes his goals hard. O_o

I don't think either of them are necessarily wrong though.
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Re: [C] The Money of Soul and Possibility Control

Postby Emong » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:10 pm

CodeZTM wrote:
Spoiler :
I just kind of tried to ignore any and all blatant ties to real world economic philosophy and went with a "oh, it's an anime" sort of thing. I think the inclusion of the financial district's magic money sort of made it hard to make any real life connection. that, and because i do enough economics studying in college classes that I'd really rather not think any more about it than I have to.

Although I'll agree with you on Jennifer. Such a wasted character in her that makes me really sad.

In terms of Yoga, I think he was more personally selfish than "protectionist". I think he was mostly concerned about Mysu and her future, and his little remaining family, and that girl he was interested in [if the last episode's after story says anything]. He desire to save these people sort of moved his motivations, in which I think was proven with the battle with Angel and the charity guy. He didn't want to fork over half his future, because that would negatively affect the people around him. But we also have to remember the difference between him and Mikuni. Yoga's an idealistic college student who hasn't experienced the real world yet, while Mikuni is much more understanding of the way of the worlds.

Mikuni-wise though, I honestly dont' think that they could have gone this far in the anime without him. How many times did he bail out Japan, even before C? He was a massive character who I believe did a lot of good before he sort of went bonkers at the end. Surely he realized that if there was nothing left of Japan, that it'd kind of be hard to protect it after a while? Eventually, there would be no people, or there would be like.... No people. Kind of makes his goals hard. O_o

I don't think either of them are necessarily wrong though.

I wouldn't dismiss the social commentary element of anime so easily. No no, it's precisely because we treat anime as pure and simple entertainment that it needs to be ruthlessly exposed in all its ideological elements :P They're always there on the background no matter whether the series in question is conscious of them or not. All those political artsy films...who cares? Films and TV series made for entertainment purposes are much more interesting to criticize!
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Re: [C] The Money of Soul and Possibility Control

Postby CodeZTM » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:16 pm

I suppose that's true. I missed the whole isolationist message entirely in this anime [I focused more on the characters and their actions/motivations, since I have a man-crush on Mikuni and fell in love with Jennifer], although I can see where they're there. I suppose that's the literature overanalyst in me. XD
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