The End of Evangelion AKA 25 & 26 [Spoilers]

DTJB · Post by **DTJB** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:05 pm

bobbarker31 wrote:(Don't ask me where the bandages came from).

Are people actually not getting this one?

Amazing. If you notice, Asuka's bandages cover up the areas on her body that got severely injured at the end of her battle with the mass-produced Evas. Specifically, when she got stabbed in the left eye with the first lance and when her right arm got split down the middle with the second. And I thought that was fucking obvious.

supersayian313 · Post by **supersayian313** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:09 pm

DTJB wrote:
bobbarker31 wrote:(Don't ask me where the bandages came from).
Are people actually not getting this one? Amazing. If you notice, Asuka's bandages cover up the areas on her body that got severely injured at the end of her battle with the mass-produced Evas. Specifically, when she got stabbed in the left eye with the first lance and when her right arm got split down the middle with the second. And I thought that was fucking obvious.

no actually it not fucking obvious. if you were transformed into the lcl liquid, and you decided to come back to your previous form you would be naked. bandages and clothes are not the same. do you have clothes or bandages when your born? no.

Org Profile · Post by **GloryQuestor** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:35 pm

supersayian313 wrote:
DTJB wrote:
bobbarker31 wrote:(Don't ask me where the bandages came from).
Are people actually not getting this one? Amazing. If you notice, Asuka's bandages cover up the areas on her body that got severely injured at the end of her battle with the mass-produced Evas. Specifically, when she got stabbed in the left eye with the first lance and when her right arm got split down the middle with the second. And I thought that was fucking obvious.
no actually it not fucking obvious. if you were transformed into the lcl liquid, and you decided to come back to your previous form you would be naked. bandages and clothes are not the same. do you have clothes or bandages when your born? no.

Theory:

Unless she was sychronized in the same way Shinji was in Episode 19. Once she gained full synch with the realization of the Eva's true identity, her entire being became part of the LCL.

However, she didn't suffer the same loss of identity that Shinji did in Episode 20. She kept her form separate from the Eva's LCL pool. Remember Episode 18 when Shinji was being strangled, or Episode 19 when Eva Unit 02 was about to be decapitated? At her current level of synch, what happens to the Eva happens to her and vice versa.

She reactivates Unit 02 with her very will, but that put her into the position of being one mind & body with her Eva -- just as Shinji would have become in Episode 20. Therefore, when a lance pierced the Eva, she shared everything -- it pokes out her eye when a lance runs through Unit 02's helmet, then splits her arm when Unit 02's is split.

As to the clothes... you're right, where did those come from?

(btw, I still want to know where the plug suit in Episode 20 came from... )

hanyou21 · Post by **hanyou21** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:12 pm

hey GQ, I can't see what ur theory is - it's just white blank space

hanyou21 · Post by **hanyou21** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:13 pm

hey GQ, I can't see what ur theory is - it's just white blank space

supersayian313 · Post by **supersayian313** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:15 pm

you need to highlight it with your cursor. like if you were going to copy and paste something.

bobbarker31 · Post by **bobbarker31** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:23 pm

Normally it would be called a plot hole, since we are not watching a documentary and all of it was written down by a man as flawed as the next human. But let's say that it was intentional....

If all of the entire series is Shinji going over things in his mind, it does not necessarily have to be accurate. All memories are flawed to some extent. I know that it does not satisfy those who believe every frame had a purpose and intent, but there.

The Afrochiapet · Post by **The Afrochiapet** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:44 am

In that case, Shinji might not even be really "alive." And all of that ideas were really some of the "alternative worlds" working all over again.

k heres another question that I have brought up is about Kaowru. Was he and Rei were considered to be Adam and Eve themselves? Are they the angels of "hope?" Or is it something else?
I personally thought that Kaowru was a mix of Adam and Jesus...
Not too sure bout Rei though...

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:29 pm

Rei is just a human with a small amount of Angel biology mixed in, possibly from her fusion with Armisael. Kaworu is most likely 100% pure Angel, because he counts as a numbered Angel and Rei does not. They are not "Adam and Eve," although Rei DID merge with Lillith and Kaworu was told that he has Adam's soul (whether SEELE was lying to him about that will never be known). Rei is also suspected of having Lillith's soul, but the evidence for this is sketchy at best.

Asuka's bandages were a projection of her mind, just like Shinji's plugsuit in Episode 20. I mean, would you really want to come back naked right next to the person you hate most in the world?

The Id/Ego/Superego thing is very interesting. I might have thought of it myself if not for the fact that my high school English teacher completely butchered their definitions when we were reading Lord of the Flies. I still don't see Rei as mediating the barrier between fantasy and reality, though; if anything, she's the one who tore it down.

remember how totally pwned Eva 02 was by the MP Evas? Remember how it was dismembered and broken when Shinji first saw it? How could Asuka survive this?

I would imagine that ghost-Rei would have magically appeared to her at the moment of death and whisked her soul away for safekeeping, like she did with Kaji, Misato, Ritsuko, etc.

the absolute answer, held within the Eva Carddass Masters Trading Card Game

Trading cards don't count for shit. Even the Red Cross book had to be corrected for its most obvious fuck-ups. Shinji choked Asuka because he hated her and was sick of her bullshit and was royally pissed at the idea of having to spend the rest of his life with her and wanted her to fucking die already. Why search for any other explanation?

Org Profile · Post by **GloryQuestor** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:40 pm

bobbarker31 wrote:If all of the entire series is Shinji going over things in his mind, it does not necessarily have to be accurate. All memories are flawed to some extent. I know that it does not satisfy those who believe every frame had a purpose and intent, but there.

I remember this is what the Nitpickers Guide for Next Generation Trekkers used to say for certain episodes that occur in the mind, like the Next Gen episode Eye of the Beholder, to which Guide author Phil Farrand writes:

After all, most of this episode occurs in Troi's mind. We can attribute any errors to the good counselor's neurons. But, for the sake of completeness, let's see what problems we can discover!

(See, such things are not confined to Evangelion.

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