[Anime Evo - BEST ROMANCE SENTIMENTAL] 泣くないで (Don't Cry)

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[Anime Evo - BEST ROMANCE SENTIMENTAL] 泣くないで (Don't Cry)

Postby Athena » Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:48 am

WINNER BEST ROMANCE SENTIMENTAL - Anime Evolution 2012
WINNER "Your Two Moms Award" - Youmacon 2012


STOP.

Go download these videos:







Now, you may go download mine:

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Video: 泣くないで (Don't Cry)
Category: Character Profile, Fun, Romance
Anime: Aoi Hana - Sweet Blue Flowers (TV)
Song: No More Cry
Artist: The Corrs
Creator: Kionon ( :| Serious Business Studios :| )

RIGHT CLICK, SAVE AS.

Folks, it's been a hard couple of years, hasn't it?

We've lost some good people, and hopefully you're reminded of just what we lost, and how they changed the landscape for the better. While I admit I did not know Magnus well, I very much loved his videos, especially Our Farewell. Without Quu, I wouldn't be here. He was the person who egged me on into editing AMVs (and more importantly, showing them in public) in the first place. A fellow original Kimagure Orange Road fan, someone I spent so much time with at AWA and chatting about KOR and Mac compatibility with... It's hard to lose someone who so obviously changed your life course in a major way.

And godix... Probably the person I spoke most with in the entire hobby. In public, of course, he ragged on me mercilessly. It was part of the joke. In private however, I would have to say, that godix was probably my best friend here on the Org. We would spend hours talking theory, or philosophy, or politics. We'd berate congress for not coming up for solutions that we would come up with in twenty minutes, even though I am a liberal Democrat, and he was at least a fairly conservative almost-Republican. He was involved in almost every video I've done for the past six years. And as much as he mocked them, he never was too busy to be involved in the process. He and I ran Review after quadir, and God knows I haven't had the interest with him gone to restart it myself.

And finally, he was the primary betatester for 泣くないで. And, although he never would have admitted it in public, he liked what he saw. When he passed away, I shelved the video. What's more, I pretty much stopped editing entirely. However, I don't think Quu or godix, or even Magnus (had we ever had the chance to talk) would have liked the idea that I had stopped editing because, ultimately, when I did, I started crying. So this video, despite its initial inception prior to their deaths, has taken on a special meaning.

It's time we stop grieving, as much as the loss of grief is in and of itself painful. Time for no more cry.

Enjoy the video and its celebration of love for the ones we live for.
Last edited by Athena on Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:05 am, edited 5 times in total.
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Re: Retirement is for Chumps (or, How I Spent My 29th Birthd

Postby Emong » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:01 am

That was really sweet. Although it felt more or less like a random collection of two characters in different situations the idea got delivered thanks to the repeated motif of Akira protecting and comforting Fumi.

In terms of editing - At times it felt quite busy and here I'm thinking about the fast patterns of cross-fades. I don't mind that but on the other hand there was nothing that would have been quite the same towards the end of the video. Maybe you could have been more consistent with the pacing by picking up the fast pace again somewhere in the second half? The beginning in general felt like you put more effort into it than the rest of the video (with all the masking and such).

But, overall, very nice work. Perhaps I'm too biased because I loved Aoi Hana but I'm gonna rate it 4/5 :up:
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Re: Retirement is for Chumps (or, How I Spent My 29th Birthd

Postby Athena » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:07 am

Emong,

It was roughly chronological, but the idea was "snapshots" from throughout the series. The first half of the video has the much faster verses. The second half of the video is choruses (slow) and bridge (slower). I did try going for hitting even more beat types, but honestly, it just got frikken ridiculous. Ideally, Fumi would have remained the narrator throughout the entire video, but with 11 episodes of mostly static, depressed faces, I fought like hell through a footage shortage...

There was no masking in the video at all.
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Re: Retirement is for Chumps (or, How I Spent My 29th Birthd

Postby Emong » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:35 am

No masking?

/re-watches the Aoi Hana opening

Ohhhhhh...
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Re: Retirement is for Chumps (or, How I Spent My 29th Birthd

Postby Athena » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:40 am

Emong wrote:No masking?

/re-watches the Aoi Hana opening

Ohhhhhh...


I bought the DVDs when they came out in Japan, so non-credit opening for the win.
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Re: Retirement is for Chumps (or, How I Spent My 29th Birthd

Postby -MD » Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:50 am

First video I've downloaded in like half a year lol. It was a good first video to watch after so long. I kind of want to hurry up with my homework today so I can edit. Haha. Just a couple of the scenes went by too fast for me. Very nice vid kio. I need to watch more stuff :asd:
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Re: Retirement is for Chumps (or, How I Spent My 29th Birthd

Postby Melanchthon » Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:02 pm

Given all the last-hour shouting and swearing on a couple of sections, the whole thing hangs together quite nicely. The first time I watched it I missed that they were gay due to a mixture of understatedness, Akira looking really young, and the closeness of female friends in anime being really close. They are shown kissing right at the very end, but I might have been too distracted by the sudden loud AYYYYYYY to process that.

Anyway, the video showed off the sweetness and supportiveness of their relationship and given the lack of visual drama the chonological approach was probably the best way of structuring it. I can see why you were so adamant about keeping the shot at the end of the bridge, that one looked really good.
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Re: Retirement is for Chumps (or, How I Spent My 29th Birthd

Postby Athena » Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:32 pm

-MD wrote:First video I've downloaded in like half a year lol. It was a good first video to watch after so long. I kind of want to hurry up with my homework today so I can edit. Haha. Just a couple of the scenes went by too fast for me. Very nice vid kio. I need to watch more stuff :asd:


After listening very carefully, I decided the speed of the cuts could not be altered. I didn't like the effect fewer cuts had on the overall flow because the vast majority of the scenes were simply too static.

Thanks, MD. :up:

Melanchthon wrote:Given all the last-hour shouting and swearing on a couple of sections, the whole thing hangs together quite nicely. The first time I watched it I missed that they were gay due to a mixture of understatedness, Akira looking really young, and the closeness of female friends in anime being really close. They are shown kissing right at the very end, but I might have been too distracted by the sudden loud AYYYYYYY to process that.


As I explained on IRC, to be fair, they don't actually start a romantic relationship until after the anime ends. The scenes from the manga, including the kissing scene, were included only in the credits. They are not in the version shown in contests. In general the series, and even the manga, is really low key.

Anyway, the video showed off the sweetness and supportiveness of their relationship and given the lack of visual drama the chonological approach was probably the best way of structuring it. I can see why you were so adamant about keeping the shot at the end of the bridge, that one looked really good.


Yeah, I do move scenes around based on lyrics, but I largely started and ended chronologically because I really wanted to show how Fumi starts off terribly depressed (the first lyrics are the first part of the first episode) but ends up truly happy with Ah-chan. And as far as I can tell from the current manga volume, they're doing well and are still quite happy, normal couple quibbles aside. The manga is on going.

Thanks, Mel. :up:
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Re: Retirement is for Chumps (or, How I Spent My 29th Birthd

Postby AquaSky » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:41 am

That was very sweet. I'm sure they would have liked to see this. :up:
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Re: Retirement is for Chumps (or, How I Spent My 29th Birthd

Postby mexicanjunior » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:28 am

Cool vid, solid editing, pacing and transitions were good. I hate the song and wasn't familiar with the anime at all. Friend story made sense and the dedication at the end was very nice. Gangum style clip at the very end was funny also...
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Re: Retirement is for Chumps (or, How I Spent My 29th Birthd

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:09 pm

I'd suggest cutting the bit at the end off when submitting it to cons in the future. It breaks the completeness of the video and looks like shameless pandering.
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Postby Athena » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:54 am

AquaSky wrote:That was very sweet. I'm sure they would have liked to see this. :up:

Thanks, Akwar. |:>

mexicanjunior wrote:Cool vid, solid editing, pacing and transitions were good. I hate the song and wasn't familiar with the anime at all. Friend story made sense and the dedication at the end was very nice. Gangum style clip at the very end was funny also...

I'm a big fan of The Corrs, so I have a hard time imagining how anyone could hate the song… But, then, I can't stand death metal, so… And yeah, I guess you could see it as just the friendship, but after the end of the series they start dating. Which is why I tended to submit this to romance. For people who have seen the series, the underlying romantic context should be clear… <3

As for the Gangnam Style clip, well, I thought it was funny but…

BasharOfTheAges wrote:I'd suggest cutting the bit at the end off when submitting it to cons in the future. It breaks the completeness of the video and looks like shameless pandering.

…you may be right, Bashar. That said, the idea of me pandering to con audiences is hilarious. When was the last time I even knew what series the con audiences were watching, let alone how to pander to them? If anyone would seriously think of this as shameless pandering, well, they don't know a kio vid when it slaps them across the face, do they?

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Re:

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:37 am

Kionon wrote:
BasharOfTheAges wrote:I'd suggest cutting the bit at the end off when submitting it to cons in the future. It breaks the completeness of the video and looks like shameless pandering.

…you may be right, Bashar. That said, the idea of me pandering to con audiences is hilarious. When was the last time I even knew what series the con audiences were watching, let alone how to pander to them? If anyone would seriously think of this as shameless pandering, well, they don't know a kio vid when it slaps them across the face, do they?

:awesome:

Any reputible con will prescreen with all identifying information removed. A lot of them use people who are familiar with videos, but wouldn't know individual editors from a hole in the ground.
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Re: Re:

Postby Athena » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:42 am

BasharOfTheAges wrote:Any reputible con will prescreen with all identifying information removed. A lot of them use people who are familiar with videos, but wouldn't know individual editors from a hole in the ground.


You know I know that, right? :roll:

The point was, just because people believe it is shameless pandering doesn't mean it is. That said, you're probably right, and maybe I'll cut it off. It's already been sent to like five or six conventions at this point, so it's kind of nearing its seasonal end. New crap is planned for 2013...
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Postby Athena » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:35 pm

Now with more BEST ROMANCE SENTIMENTAL and "Your Two Moms Award" winning action!
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