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Need help, w/ building my computer.

Postby shinji13 » Wed Mar 24, 2004 11:28 am

Well since all i am able to do is ask/tell about good deals im gonna ask some stuff now ^^ i know a few people on this forum build there own comps. and im building my first.

proccessor:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 165&depa=1

(i need to know if it works w/ this motherboard):

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDe ... 190&depa=0

Those are the two that i plan to get, and i know the socket 478 thing, and that my motherboard supports celeron and pentium.But what i need to know is if there is a better and cheaper proccessor out there, and if in fact this proccessor will work on that mother board ~_~ cause u should see it aint refundable, lol.

Anyway plz tell me :) and give links if possible.

Oh also =) i might need alot of help while im building or something ^_^ so if someone wouldnt mind working me through it when i have problems then aim:auron1212 when u get a chance.
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Postby Kracus » Wed Mar 24, 2004 11:35 am

To answer your question, yes that processor would work with that motherboard.

Have fun putting it together. I still remember my first time.

wish I could build a new one now. :(
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Postby madmag9999 » Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:57 pm

yea they will work. but id suggest looking into getting an AMD cpu not a Intel. and i dont know if on board graphics are good enough for u but i wouldnt be to happy with them. unless u dont have the money for a graphics card that is
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Postby Kalium » Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:59 pm

madmag9999 wrote:yea they will work. but id suggest looking into getting an AMD cpu not a Intel. and i dont know if on board graphics are good enough for u but i wouldnt be to happy with them. unless u dont have the money for a graphics card that is


If you do that, be sure to add good cooling. Go for the water cooling, if you can. AMD's run hotter than Intels.
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Postby madmag9999 » Wed Mar 24, 2004 1:18 pm

theres no need for water cooling. i oced my 2800+ to a 3200+ and it was still at a safe and stable temp with the stock heat sink. but i dicided to get the volcano 11 just to be safe.
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water cooling!!!NOOOO

Postby lastknight » Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:19 am

Kalium wrote:
madmag9999 wrote:yea they will work. but id suggest looking into getting an AMD cpu not a Intel. and i dont know if on board graphics are good enough for u but i wouldnt be to happy with them. unless u dont have the money for a graphics card that is


If you do that, be sure to add good cooling. Go for the water cooling, if you can. AMD's run hotter than Intels.

try not to use water cooling for your first if anything dont use it at all .the idea of risking all your money and time in building a computer just to fry everything with a leak or condesation is too big.
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Re: water cooling!!!NOOOO

Postby madmag9999 » Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:40 am

lastknight wrote:
Kalium wrote:
madmag9999 wrote:yea they will work. but id suggest looking into getting an AMD cpu not a Intel. and i dont know if on board graphics are good enough for u but i wouldnt be to happy with them. unless u dont have the money for a graphics card that is


If you do that, be sure to add good cooling. Go for the water cooling, if you can. AMD's run hotter than Intels.

try not to use water cooling for your first if anything dont use it at all .the idea of risking all your money and time in building a computer just to fry everything with a leak or condesation is too big.

all the water cooling systems iv seen have a life time warenty. also they might use some other liquid that dosent trasfer electricity, also your avatar is to big :?
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Re: Need help, w/ building my computer.

Postby Calim » Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:33 pm

shinji13 wrote:Well since all i am able to do is ask/tell about good deals im gonna ask some stuff now ^^ i know a few people on this forum build there own comps. and im building my first.


I heavely suggest since this is the first you'll be building that you practice with an old motherboard and Processor, install it and uninstall it a couple of times so that when it comes to the new one you don't mess it up and have to buy another Processor :( that stuff can happen.
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Postby madmag9999 » Mon Apr 05, 2004 9:55 pm

its not hard. u could just watch the vids on the amd site and im pretty sure intel should have a tutorial vid aswell
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Postby Kalium » Mon Apr 05, 2004 9:57 pm

Go with AMD. AMD's run faster, and consistantly do better on benchmarks.
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Postby madmag9999 » Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:03 pm

Kalium wrote:Go with AMD. AMD's run faster, and consistantly do better on benchmarks.

x2.
like i said befor i oced my 2800+ to a 3200+ on a stock heat sinck and it was stable
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Postby Calim » Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:12 pm

Pentium all the way baby 8)
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Postby Zarxrax » Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:13 pm

AMDs suck compared to P4s. I dunno what benchmarks you are looking at, but on the one's I see all the time, the althlons loose bigtime, especially at video encoding and such.
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Postby dwchang » Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:31 pm

Kalium wrote:
madmag9999 wrote:yea they will work. but id suggest looking into getting an AMD cpu not a Intel. and i dont know if on board graphics are good enough for u but i wouldnt be to happy with them. unless u dont have the money for a graphics card that is


If you do that, be sure to add good cooling. Go for the water cooling, if you can. AMD's run hotter than Intels.


Uhm, this is downright wrong. Well...you are correct in the AMD used to run hotter, but now Intel has the crown. Their newest processor, Prescott runs at 100 - 120 W while an Athlon runs MAX 80 W.

Power ~ Heat

And even if an Athlon runs hotter, you don't need something as extreme as water cooling. I have a dual Athlon system (i.e. twice the heat) and don't have anything other than 3 standard fans and two heatsinks.

Zarxrax wrote:AMDs suck compared to P4s. I dunno what benchmarks you are looking at, but on the one's I see all the time, the althlons loose bigtime, especially at video encoding and such.


You must be reading Tom's Hardware benchmarks. Everyone knows how "subjective" and "fair" they are :lol:.

Regardless, I do agree in that the 32-bit athlons lose *slightly* to current P4's in video encoding, but it's hardly "sucks" or "lose bigtime."

More importantly, the Athlon 64's and Opterons "PWN" anything Intel has at the moment both in performance and price. Obviously Intel has the name and everyone recognizes that, but few seem to realize that AMD has retaken the performance crown and has had it for quite a few months.

Given the fact Intel has fumbled with the "Prescott ball" two or three times sure has helped ;). I imagine once they tweak their process correctly, it'll be a little more competitive performance-wise. Everything I know of Prescott from an architectural standpoint tells me it *should* perform well...however, it's not.
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Postby Zarxrax » Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:11 pm

dwchang wrote:
Zarxrax wrote:AMDs suck compared to P4s. I dunno what benchmarks you are looking at, but on the one's I see all the time, the althlons loose bigtime, especially at video encoding and such.


You must be reading Tom's Hardware benchmarks. Everyone knows how "subjective" and "fair" they are :lol:.


What's wrong with tomshardware? I mean they aren't biased against AMD or anything... In fact its the site that convinced me to buy an AMD processor in my older system, 600mhz athlon. The tests they perform seem accurate. Whats the problem?
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