AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Brad » Wed May 05, 2010 6:43 am

Whole thread = tl;dr. However I will throw in my 2 cents anyway. I can't say for 100% certainty that I will ever make another AMV. I haven't edited anything in close to 3 years, and quite honestly I just don't come up with video ideas anymore. I also just don't really watch that many videos anymore, and when I do I just don't get as impressed by them as I used to.

All that being said, here I am. I still check the forums every day and hang out in #amv pretty much all the time. A majority of my friends are AMV creators (online and IRL), many of which do still edit or plan to. For me, the Org is all about the people I've made connections with and that's about it. I will always hold a place in my heart for the hobby itself and I recognize that I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing today career-wise if it wasn't for my involvement in the hobby, and I think several others could say the same thing.

So as far as it being an "addiction"? I certainly wouldn't go that far (for myself anyway). I'll stick with the community and this site for as long as I have friends that call this place home (in some way or another). I also don't see the hobby itself ever going away. I'm sure it'll continue to shrink and become more obscure, but it'll likely find a happy equilibrium where there's always a small subset of people still producing new videos and there'll always be people that enjoy watching them.
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby JudgeHolden » Wed May 05, 2010 11:49 am

I'm addicted, but it's like Opium ... a mellow, slow high. (You don't want to know about the withdrawals) :shock:
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby MycathatesyouAMV » Thu May 06, 2010 3:42 pm

I think not only the amount of people joining the org but the videos people are creating have gone down hill as well. Ever since 08 I think the quality in amvs of one year has been getting worse, the creativity is lacking, too many vids just seem "meh" and theres not enough amvs that stand out and make you say "wow".
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Kevmaster » Thu May 06, 2010 4:21 pm

MycathatesyouAMV wrote:I think not only the amount of people joining the org but the videos people are creating have gone down hill as well. Ever since 08 I think the quality in amvs of one year has been getting worse, the creativity is lacking, too many vids just seem "meh" and theres not enough amvs that stand out and make you say "wow".


This is not only an issue with amv's, it's a deeper and more general thing that happened to the world (in a long time process though). Everything has already been done, there is nothing new to create.
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Thu May 06, 2010 4:35 pm

It's "lifetime" only if you don't have that long to live. In which case, i'm sorry to hear of your imminent death.
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Knowname » Thu May 06, 2010 4:52 pm

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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Pie Row Maniac » Fri May 07, 2010 1:55 pm

Kevmaster wrote:
MycathatesyouAMV wrote:I think not only the amount of people joining the org but the videos people are creating have gone down hill as well. Ever since 08 I think the quality in amvs of one year has been getting worse, the creativity is lacking, too many vids just seem "meh" and theres not enough amvs that stand out and make you say "wow".


This is not only an issue with amv's, it's a deeper and more general thing that happened to the world (in a long time process though). Everything has already been done, there is nothing new to create.

I wouldn't say the quality of AMVs have gone down really. I'm seeing videos around here that could just have easily been made back in '02. In fact, because of better compression software, videos today look incredible compared to back then, visually. They have the same editing quality but look ten times better.

Perhaps the quality of people's editing hasn't changed, but our expectations, and have been raised to an extent that it takes more than a typically-edited AMV to impress us, especially after the boon of effects videos that reigned the community a few years back.
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Falconone » Fri May 07, 2010 1:59 pm

Kevmaster wrote:
MycathatesyouAMV wrote:I think not only the amount of people joining the org but the videos people are creating have gone down hill as well. Ever since 08 I think the quality in amvs of one year has been getting worse, the creativity is lacking, too many vids just seem "meh" and theres not enough amvs that stand out and make you say "wow".


This is not only an issue with amv's, it's a deeper and more general thing that happened to the world (in a long time process though). Everything has already been done, there is nothing new to create.

nothing new to create?
Look at the music industrie or movies. there are always new things and this entertaiment group exist longer as AMVs. Also we combinate them so we have many things that could have done. If it is good or not, that can only see the viewer and make the creator.
One problem i saw is, that there are many editors but they are not good and wont here bad critics because on yt they here all the time "awesome, you are the best" and stuff.
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby JaddziaDax » Fri May 07, 2010 3:47 pm

I don't think the quality of videos has gone down. I think that people's tastes and expectations have changed.
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby jubjub2 » Fri May 07, 2010 7:12 pm

I still lurk a lot, and edit some - certainly not as much as I did a couple of years ago. A lot of the newer video releases haven't piqued my interest because I don't have the time to really sit and have a full-out anime binge to keep up with new series. The ones I have watched have opened my eyes to some real gems, though. I also prefer more simplistic styles of editing over the sparkly effect-laden whoredoms that have been cropping up as of late.

I have loved anime since I was a kid, and probably will until I'm too old. When will that be? Who knows. My dad just started watching anime, so there's hope for a few more decades for me. :uhoh:
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby EvaFan » Sat May 08, 2010 1:42 am

jubjub2 wrote:so there's hope for a few more decades for me. :uhoh:


And there's hope for a few more <3 MEPs for me |:>
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Emotive » Sat May 08, 2010 3:50 am

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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby outlawed » Sat May 08, 2010 1:00 pm

It's no surprise really. We're at the end of a 5 year cycle or so and we are experiencing a changing of the guard. I would say the difference between now and the last couple times this happened is that anime is definitely on a downturn in the USA. Heck in general you could argue. The AMV scene is not the only place hurting just look at the fansub scene (and please let's not debate warez or what-not about fansubs). The fansub scene even a couple years ago was ripe with a lot or large groups and multiple translators. Now it's a bunch of splinter groups featuring a handful of the same people translating (and the rest of the "groups" are just remuxing crunchy subs or ripping DVDs). Why do I mention this? I think in recent years there has been a shift in the fansubs scene to the point that a large amount of the groups no longer even care about the anime itself. There are quite a few well known groups that engage in more 4chan-esque behavior and talk about subbing and trolling as one and the same. These are not hardcore anime fans like we had in the early 00s who did digi-subbbing and their motives are quite different from the early 00 groups who were also different from the 90s groups.

A similar demographic issue happens with AMVs. This site and its community is a more hardcore venture for the average type of anime fan that exists today. You need a pretty strong interest in anime or AMVs to care about coming here and you actually need to dedicate some time to be involved or noticed by the community. Contrast that with the throwaway status of AMVs or anime on a place like youtube or random internet forums. Anime does not have the same status it once had and this site and its community is most certainly not built to attract or foster someone who doesn't really care much about AMVs/anime. That leaves us with potential new members as: 1) someone who experience making AMVs and is pretty hardcore about it or 2) big amv enthusiast (but they no longer need a source like the org because the content they desire to see may already be posted or discussed on numerous anime blogs).

To be honest the site's lasting power has impressed me but that's because there is a strong core social community in the mix that sustains it. I think the core of this site currently has two major groups. Active AMV creators and the forum/#amv social community. What happens when these 2 groups no longer intersect?

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You are reading the post of someone who considered the org a step down from its small insular AMV ML roots at the time it went live.

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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby outlawed » Sat May 08, 2010 1:03 pm

outlawed wrote:Bonus
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Knowname » Sat May 08, 2010 5:39 pm

heh all the rage quits we've had over the years... and I don't see my name in any of those posts :/ musta' been during the time I couldn't figure out how to log in :/.
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