AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby kickass331 » Mon May 03, 2010 7:56 pm

SQ wrote:Ehh.... Honestly I'm unwilling to deal with Sedo.
I'm not paying $100+ for a domain.

just have a 10 second google adsense page that redirects to animemusicvideos.org, you'll have your money back in no time.
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Sephiroth » Mon May 03, 2010 9:55 pm

People come and people go such is the way of life in every hobby. At least you'll have some sort of mark even if it's a small one. Really though i'm finding it more difficult to make vids cause id rather spend that energy on things that are 100% my own. AMVs are a good point to start with your creative process but you eventually have to take those steps to do something more.

Been 12 years and i don't feel that jaded the whole things changed surely but who in there right mind would say they want to go back to 2vcrs. And like many people i like to think that i still have better things i can do instead of reaching some sort of imaginary peak which i will then vanish from.
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby kickass331 » Mon May 03, 2010 9:58 pm

Sephiroth wrote:People come and people go such is the way of life in every hobby. At least you'll have some sort of mark even if it's a small one. Really though i'm finding it more difficult to make vids cause id rather spend that energy on things that are 100% my own. AMVs are a good point to start with your creative process but you eventually have to take those steps to do something more.

Been 12 years and i don't feel that jaded the whole things changed surely but who in there right mind would say they want to go back to 2vcrs. And like many people i like to think that i still have better things i can do instead of reaching some sort of imaginary peak which i will then vanish from.

exactly my point. People have no reason to do AMVs forever. Your first sentence is what everyone should realize, AMVs are fun, they are interesting, but they are also not original content, nor are they for profit, nor are they legal. There are better things to put blood sweat and tears into and AMVs are not that.
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Athena » Mon May 03, 2010 10:09 pm

There are two reasons I am still here:

1) I still enjoy editing AMVs to express my fandom of a series; this is something that cannot be done as easily in original creative endeavors (you can with references, allusions, homages), and even when you do, it is not the same at all. By editing AMVs, I am expressing my fandom of source created by someone else. The creators ought to be touched, and probably are. Labels and production houses are greedy asshats.

2) Most professional editing is boring bullshit without creativity at all. Movie editors, music video editors, etc are actually in the minority of professional video editors. As for me? I did it for a number of years, and you know what I did? Linear editing of football games for live broadcast, cutting long pauses out of city council meetings, making thirty second political commercials I didn't even necessarily agree with, or editing together B Roll for a story on new parking lot construction at the local high school. Boring shit is boring.

I'm quite happy just putting out one or two videos a year. I have other hobbies, I have a social life, I travel around Asia (trying to get to Singapore this year), and I am just not interested in, as Beo put it, "trapcode shine." I'll edit what I want to edit, when I want to edit, and as long as I enjoyed doing it, I'll keep doing it.
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Zarxrax » Tue May 04, 2010 7:26 am

I think there is definitely still a lot of new life in the community, although it tends to be a bit more decentralized these days. A lot of the big talent now is coming from other countries, and they have their own websites where they communicate and stuff. Also, as someone else said, a lot of the creators now never move past youtube. In way, I suppose, that could be a good thing, if you assume that youtube is taking away the ones who used to contribute all the Linkin Park Z videos and such, while those who are truly interested in this hobby will find there way here.

I've been running a project called "AMV Minis" on my own site (sort of a replacement to amv hell, because I'm too lazy to ever do another amv hell), and 99% of the videos that I receive are made by people whom I have never heard of outside of my own site. Unfortunately, that same 99% couldn't IVTC to save their grandmother, but that's a story for a different day.
Heck, even many of the VCA winners these days are fairly new people who I don't really know.

So yea, the community is still here, still lots of new people coming in. But... its just not all consolidated like it used to be.
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby mexicanjunior » Tue May 04, 2010 11:33 am

Beowulf wrote:I stick around because there is no such thing as retirement if you really love something. The dynamic is definitely different now though. From age 13-19, AMVs were THE most important thing in my life. AMVs allowed me to grow into myself and helped me realize that I was an artist, not a clerk at Blockbuster Video.

I still enjoy watching the classics, but I haven't seen any new creators that spark my interest in a long time, and yes that means all you new french fags with your trapcode shine.


You should never have quit that Blockbuster job...
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Castor Troy » Tue May 04, 2010 12:54 pm

I'll still stick around.

I got more DBZ videos I want to make. :)
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Knowname » Tue May 04, 2010 2:12 pm

SQ wrote:Sorry to break up the discussion, but I got a reply on animemusicvideos.com.
My email to the owner basically said "I was wondering if I could buy this or get you to forward your domain to the .org out of kindness" (but better worded).
Her response is this:
Wow, I haven't gotten an email about that domain in a long time.

The reason why I don't forward the domain is simple: I have my own plans for the domain. I've had this domain since... early 2000? I got it because back in the day I used to host an FTP site with about 20 GB of amvs and I got the domain for it. It has had different iterations but is currently dead (and has been dead for at least 4-5 years). I've got something I've been working on in the background planned for the site, it just isn't anywhere near ready.

As for buying the domain: I'm not really willing to sell. It has sentimental value to me. Someone once tossed me a number of 10k and I wasn't willing to part with it for that, so you'd be hard pressed to get me interested. Sorry.

So I guess that's never happening.
Oh well.


Yeah that's been a site ever since back in the day. I hope your inquiry at least sparked some interest, the owner sounds reasonable, not some machine. I'd assumed it was just squatters from the .com days (thought so when this conversation started) but now that she mentions her 'structure' it does make sense that it's always been privately owned.

Zarxrax wrote:I've been running a project called "AMV Minis" on my own site (sort of a replacement to amv hell, because I'm too lazy to ever do another amv hell), and 99% of the videos that I receive are made by people whom I have never heard of outside of my own site. Unfortunately, that same 99% couldn't IVTC to save their grandmother, but that's a story for a different day.
Heck, even many of the VCA winners these days are fairly new people who I don't really know.


I ran acrossed this the other day while looking for amv hell 1 and 2 for the animeusa thread (they didn't make it :/) and I was like Zarx you cheeky fella'! Their great!! And I'd never heard of those editors there either!
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby JaddziaDax » Tue May 04, 2010 4:50 pm

Taite wrote:but I'm still more attracted to the org because people don't just make one hour videos and say "check it, I did this in an hour cuz I was bored." I like that it's taken more "seriously" around here, and how everyone is part of a "community." You don't get that around yt.


Dood! that's like my entire amv career - "check it, I made these cause I was bored"... O.o

In all seriousness, I'm not putting out as many videos as I used to because this year has been a flux for me... Also slowing down in general during the editing process has helped improve my work.

I don't think I'll be stopping any time soon. However, like this past year or so, I might take very long breaks to get life situated. I don't come on the boards as much mostly due to the beating of the dead horse... and I've found other things that I can occupy my time with. But meh, who knows maybe the conversation will get interesting again and you won't be able to get me to shut up again?
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Slash » Tue May 04, 2010 7:09 pm

I have been editing for almost 3 years now and have to conclude that the vast variety of video sharing sites up now are the reasons for the lack of participation in events, forums, MEPs on the org. Not only that but editors feel like they can be more independent in them-selfs to the point where they work without any community involvement, sites like YouTube is where most editors originate from due to the easy/friendly interface they get on it, when forums like here is harder to find since of public publicity and complicity to a new comer. But that mostly depends on an age group; Older new editors pick up everything they can get from the org easier but younger editors have a harder time adjusting to it. I myself started in YouTube because of the simplicity of it and gradually started lurking on the forums here. Generally here is the heart of AMVs since it was mainly built here, new editors or old they usually end up using some of the advise and lessons this place teaches but editors will continue to go on their foreign AMV site, Video sharing site, or their own site most of the time. (Editors here teach each other great things and i won't deny that at all)

Hopefully we get great editor(s) that stands out from this generation instead of editors that have been editing since 2000-06 all the time soon :sweat: I'd really like to see that.
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Knowname » Tue May 04, 2010 7:24 pm

I'm not looking forward to the future here if Down with pants' plans are what I think. I take this like the console wars, the .org is the xbox. We got fans allright, just not the mainstream. But you know, like Nintendo, we will survive because of the high attach rate. Fans of the X never mess with the next best. (Fans of the org don't screw around with YT). Xbox fans don't jump ship and always return. Stupid Sony and their Youtube/ mainstream appeal.
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Athena » Tue May 04, 2010 7:36 pm

Slash wrote:Hopefully we get great editor(s) that stands out from this generation instead of editors that have been editing since 2000-06 all the time soon :sweat: I'd really like to see that.


Should I be insulted? >_>

Honestly Slash, the issue isn't that we don't have new people coming in. The issue is that we don't have enough new people coming in to replace the veterans that have dropped off the map. And those that do come in don't get involved. A lot of what you said is true about how even the new people who sign up to the org don't involve themselves in the community. I made this point a few days ago, as had godix, and I'm sure others.

And that is the real problem. Growing membership is worthless unless it's ACTIVE membership. Which it's not.

EDIT: Given a recent search of the forums, I retract statements made about Re-Evo. They were not true, and mostly due to my own inability to recognise names and avatars.
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Slash » Tue May 04, 2010 8:11 pm

Don't get me wrong Kionon i enjoy all work from editors as long as its good but i have yet to see a somewhat good released AMV by a editor thats been editing from 08 till now, and well i don't really expect much from a beginner but i hardly see any progress in their skill. Yes, the Re-evo studio irritated my aswell they are not that popular on YouTube with editors who have some sense in what they do into their editing. Some of them are actually pretty good but others have yet to learn how to crawl before walking. (Their non stopping abuse of their horrid effects and horrible output quality) They are not organized as most AMV groups are, they just wondered off somewhere and found the org and said "Hey lets post our videos up here since we keep hearing about this place" But it is true, they should contribute more into the community if they want something FROM the community but they are spoiled editors from all the dick riding they get from editors on YT. I agree with you bud. (Sorry if i went kind of off topic there about Re-evo but as soon as i heard they migrated to the Org i knew they would make the name YouTube Editors worst so i had to say something for some of us who still like to use both org and YouTube.)
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Athena » Tue May 04, 2010 8:22 pm

EDIT: Given a recent search of the forums, I retract statements made about Re-Evo. They were not true, and mostly due to my own inability to recognise names and avatars.
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Re: AMVs: A Lifetime Addiction?

Postby Slash » Tue May 04, 2010 8:40 pm

Yeah, thats my bad i got out of line with the whole Re-evo situation. Hopefully YouTube editors who migrate to the org contribute into the forum and other activities they will not only benefit from it but also help out a community.
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