Ahh sweet fustration.

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Re: Ahh sweet fustration.

Postby Qyot27 » Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:10 pm

Knowname wrote:You do know there WERE AMV editors out there before AVIsynth hit the scene in 2002 lol

AviSynth was first released in May 2000. :P

Yes, that means AviSynth predates the .Org - albeit only by a few months. Not that AviSynth 0.1 would be anywhere near remotely as usable as we know today, but still...

The general point I was trying to make, at least, is that before you use a filter, know A) what it does, and if relevant, B) how it works under the hood. A) is what determines the situations you feel it necessary to use said filters, and B) ensures that you know it'll work before you try to use it (although some of the task of getting filters to work is trial-and-error, but the Source plugins are mostly straightforward about how they access files, so knowing how they do that will let you know if it'll work before you happen to waste your time...or you'll know how to set things up on the system so said Source filters will work, as is the case for AVISource and DirectShowSource).
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Re: Ahh sweet fustration.

Postby Knowname » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:28 pm

why do we need to know B though? That's the whole point of this, why not just edit? Why do we need to read a whole 500 page encyclopedia just to make a simple amv?

don't get me wrong, I think B is VERY important but I just think it should come AFTER A (and the edit) not come before it. I'd rather make my own mistakes and learn from them, we don't all want to learn the same way, if we did we'd be robots.
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Re: Ahh sweet fustration.

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:45 pm

Knowname wrote:why do we need to know B though? That's the whole point of this, why not just edit? Why do we need to read a whole 500 page encyclopedia just to make a simple amv?

You don't need to know any of that to make an AMV. You're free to ignore all the guides and advice from people with experience. You also don't need to know anything about your ingredients or cooking methods to cook. You're free to ignore all the cooking shows and cook books. How's your meal going to come out though? Who's going to want to eat it?
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Re: Ahh sweet fustration.

Postby Enigma » Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:10 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:
Knowname wrote:why do we need to know B though? That's the whole point of this, why not just edit? Why do we need to read a whole 500 page encyclopedia just to make a simple amv?

You don't need to know any of that to make an AMV. You're free to ignore all the guides and advice from people with experience. You also don't need to know anything about your ingredients or cooking methods to cook. You're free to ignore all the cooking shows and cook books. How's your meal going to come out though? Who's going to want to eat it?


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Re: Ahh sweet fustration.

Postby SomeWhiteFellow » Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:14 pm

Enigma wrote:
BasharOfTheAges wrote:
Knowname wrote:why do we need to know B though? That's the whole point of this, why not just edit? Why do we need to read a whole 500 page encyclopedia just to make a simple amv?

You don't need to know any of that to make an AMV. You're free to ignore all the guides and advice from people with experience. You also don't need to know anything about your ingredients or cooking methods to cook. You're free to ignore all the cooking shows and cook books. How's your meal going to come out though? Who's going to want to eat it?


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Re: Ahh sweet fustration.

Postby Zarxrax » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:03 pm

James, I'm always trying to simplify the guides as much as possible, but this is extremely difficult, because by simplifying things you run the risk of leaving out important details or misrepresenting things.

The purpose of the eadfag is not just to allow someone to get their footage into the editing program, but rather, the purpose is to show you how to create an AMV with the best video quality possible. If you want to just rip your dvds and import it straight into your editing software, you can certainly do that. However, the result wont look as good as if you do it correctly.

If you can point out specific problem areas in the guide that you feel aren't explained well, I can try to update these in the future.
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Re: Ahh sweet fustration.

Postby Knowname » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:00 pm

Zarxrax wrote:James, I'm always trying to simplify the guides as much as possible, but this is extremely difficult, because by simplifying things you run the risk of leaving out important details or misrepresenting things.

The purpose of the eadfag is not just to allow someone to get their footage into the editing program, but rather, the purpose is to show you how to create an AMV with the best video quality possible. If you want to just rip your dvds and import it straight into your editing software, you can certainly do that. However, the result wont look as good as if you do it correctly.

If you can point out specific problem areas in the guide that you feel aren't explained well, I can try to update these in the future.

What happened to your Zarxfag dude or am I missing it? It was right in the front for the beta...
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Re: Ahh sweet fustration.

Postby Zarxrax » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:22 pm

Knowname wrote:What happened to your Zarxfag dude or am I missing it? It was right in the front for the beta...

It was outdated. Also I did a lot of work trying to streamline the EADFAG, so I felt it wasnt so important anymore.
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Re: Ahh sweet fustration.

Postby Knowname » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:51 pm

oh ok, well personally I liked it :) nice primer. But I can see your point.
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