Storyboards.... How do you make them?

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Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Postby Bauzi » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:50 am

Hey there,

I'm just working on a project right now and it's the first time that I really felt that I should write down the scenes of the various animes that I want to use and how some parts of the song definatly should look like. I didn't really do this before, because it was enough to just scrub through the anime in my timeline and pick here and there some scenes. Thought I already knew basic key scenes, but I never really took any notes.

So how do your story boards look like?

I just have some sort of timecode in a textfile and not which scenes should be at that place. This method doesn't really feel good and more inefficient. I hope I can learn something from the stuff you will post in this thread.


Example for a note in my so called storyboard file:

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3:36-4:00
scenes on riots; scene changes timed on the main beats

Jin Roh
-Riot scenes

Akira
-Riot scenes (from beginning and end of the anime)
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Postby Vivaldi » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:59 am

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I mostly just write down key moments in the song where I know I want a certain thing to happen. In between that I improvise.
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Postby Castor Troy » Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:06 pm

story.... board?
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Postby Pwolf » Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:08 pm

I do something similar. Especially for a multi anime video. I'll make a list of the shows that fit my criteria then I'll go over the song and write down what goes through my head and what I want to do where. It's not really story boarding in the traditional sense of drawing out frames. More like brainstorming.
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Postby JudgeHolden » Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:22 pm

I just stare at my shelves stocked full of 150+ anime series and hope something comes to me. Nothing ever gets written down. :sweat:
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Postby NS » Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:25 pm

Yah, I kinda just keep a general concept in my head, then stare at my timeline until scenes from the show pop into my head.
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Postby Panky » Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:32 pm

I imagine the start, the end, and if there's enough footage to cover the rest of the song. If it doesn't, the project fails.
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Postby CastielTheFallen » Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:52 pm

It's alllllll in the noodle.
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Postby Knowname » Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:58 pm

I scrub like you. Not come acrossed something where I'd write something down (instead I'd grab the clip and put it on my timeline or... if it immediately didn't fit I'd rename the clip to something I'd HOPEFULLY recognize and leave it lying around somewhere disabled. I constantly make use of the preview individual clips function in premiere (the left preview pane of the monitor). Like castor says I get my titling cues from the song not the anime like it seems you do.

I think the way your doing it is fine though...
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Postby Bauzi » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:04 pm

Thanks Vivaldi! Im gonna check it out too :o

Man... I feel ultra lazy. I just make another Premiere Pro Sequence paste in all episodes and movies. Every source gets one complete track and than I scrub (of course most tracks are disabeled for speed ups). Than I cut scenes out, set markers and that's pretty much it. I leave it as it is so I can come back. Next... another sequence. That's my clip pool. I through in every usefull clips into it.

Yeah I know that a trimmer is great for working, but I like this kind of source scouting much more. I dunno... it feels better to me. Oh and don't really like to render out small clips out of VDM. Most of the time I use DVDs or make complete huge lossless copies of my footage.
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Postby Ileia » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:11 pm

I pull every possible clip/scene into Magix and arrange them into sections, depending on what I'm doing with the video. For my most recent video, I had sections of things like "scenery/opening", "slow-mo/pretty scenes", "action sequences", and "ending" and then I just went from there. I call it a clip buffet, because it reminds me of how many of the larger buffet chains set things up. Appetizers, side items, main course, dessert. I have a large selection and I just pick and choose what I want from each section.
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:01 pm

I note from the POV of the song... usually in segments that I mark in the timeline.

For what i'm currently working on I haven't done more than comment on the song itself though, and it's not exactly helping.
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Postby Infinity Squared » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:53 pm

JudgeHolden wrote:I just stare at my shelves stocked full of 150+ anime series and hope something comes to me. Nothing ever gets written down. :sweat:


That's more or less it for me. Stare at the collection... see if I have what I'm looking for... and if not, then research, but yeah, all the "storyboarding" itself happens in my head as it comes to me.
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Postby Fall_Child42 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:10 pm

I draw them.

Seriously, I set out sheets of 8.5 x 11 paper in 6 sections and I draw on it and make notes.
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Postby Knowname » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:23 am

Bauzi wrote:Thanks Vivaldi! Im gonna check it out too :o

Man... I feel ultra lazy. I just make another Premiere Pro Sequence paste in all episodes and movies. Every source gets one complete track and than I scrub (of course most tracks are disabeled for speed ups). Than I cut scenes out, set markers and that's pretty much it. I leave it as it is so I can come back. Next... another sequence. That's my clip pool. I through in every usefull clips into it.

Yeah I know that a trimmer is great for working, but I like this kind of source scouting much more. I dunno... it feels better to me. Oh and don't really like to render out small clips out of VDM. Most of the time I use DVDs or make complete huge lossless copies of my footage.

Ileia wrote:I pull every possible clip/scene into Magix and arrange them into sections, depending on what I'm doing with the video. For my most recent video, I had sections of things like "scenery/opening", "slow-mo/pretty scenes", "action sequences", and "ending" and then I just went from there. I call it a clip buffet, because it reminds me of how many of the larger buffet chains set things up. Appetizers, side items, main course, dessert. I have a large selection and I just pick and choose what I want from each section.

I do both. well I don't clip (or clean) at all (might change if I worked with avs), but, when putting together a time line it just looks messy, messy messy messy. how do I make sense of the madness though?? and this is why I would lose if I went back to clipping. I listen to the song over and over when choosing my scenes. see I sorta' already know how quite a few scenes will work with the song because when I do what bauzi says. Just load up the entire vob (or the entire episode if it's *gasp* downloaded footage), I inch my way through it keeping the parts I like through the preview window. But AS I do this I have the song under the video footage. So for every 'inch' I listen to the full song. once I finish the song I erase all the video file I went over and drag the song to where I was. And listen to it again ^_^ sometimes I go through an entire episode, find no usable footage, just listen to the song like 10x.

OFC the way I go sounds like the worst form of masochism lol but... I really think that's why I'm able just to lay clips and they work. I wouldn't have this same feeling if I made clips, I just wouldn't o.0. Also I think this is faster than doing it in two seperate motions.

BUT of coarse there are also a few scenes, every time, that I don't see how they'd work... but somehow end up with anyway. How? well it's since when I clip I watch the entire thing I might know what happens before and after a clip I have and SINCE these clips are not 'clipped' but instead parts of an entire vob they continue on instead of ending at the end/ beginning. Particularly useful for fades and such. Well anyway I know if I want that scene I can still go get it ^_^ it's not like it's any more than simply lengthening the scene before it or the scene after it. I'll never go back to clipping.

And again because these 'sections' (I'm talking about the clips that are really sections of the vob in use) don't end, I don't get those 'fading into oblivion' problems I used to. Of coarse, I get more hanging frames than I'd desire though... but they usually get weeded out in the beta process anyway. It's also tough to clean. Not impossible but you'd have to clean an entire vob for one scene lol... unless you end up cleaning the entire thing at the end.

I only use 1 sequence and no markers though. Your way sounds much quicker, I just don't know if you listen to the song every time through like I do. It gives you a much stronger feel of where the clips should go, I think.
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